MUST READ: HBO Pays 750K for Ortiz-Campbell!

[mrpain81]

The money was well spent. Good night of fights and it brought in good ratings.

Hauser has a huge agenda against GBP and HBO, particularly HBO. Not sure why.

I kind of have to agree with this, it was the highest rated show since Arreola vs Vitali. They paid more money to Chad Dawson vs Glen Johnson II and that fight did a little over half the ratings to what this card did.

[mrpain81]

Really Burner? Then why did HBO cut 15mil from their boxing budget this year? If it was so damn big why cut the budget? Matter of fact why not put more money in the budget? 15mil they cut from their budget. That means we are getting less fights this year, which mean boxing fans get screwed at the end. But, yet you don't see anything wrong with this picture

I would like to know who confirmed they cut $15 million from their budget, I only read Hauser wrote they might do that but It hasn't been confirmed. If you know of a link where it's been confirmed can u please post it?

[mrpain81]

The fact is, normally Hauser bitches about HBO in continuous articles. Does he make valid points? Sometimes, but he largely over exaggerates things. Where is the mention that Khan-Malignaggi did good numbers? That money pulled in a crowd.

It's easy to say that now that Ortiz dominated, but going into the fight it was the perfect crossroads fight. Two "quitters" who people were questioning their heart. Campbell wasn't seen as shot going in and before the Bradley fight, both of the fighters bandwagons were out of control. They fell out, but were rebounding back. It was an interesting fight to see how they would bounce back.

What my problem is with Thomas Hauser is he always goes after HBO, but never showtime. Where was his article on how Vazquez Marquez IV was a waste of money? They spent 1.6 million on it. HBO was thinking of picking it up once, I'm sure if they had, Hauser would have written a huge article.

Where was Hauser's article on showtime's lack of boxing besides the super six? Where was Hauser's article accusing Dan Goosen of rescheduling the Ward fight and ridiculing the super six for letting it happen?

Hauser always goes after HBO. That's a fact. Sometimes his points are great (Dawson Tarver II for example), but a lot of time it's just unnecessary bull****.

edit: And don't get me wrong, HBO does overpays some of their fighters (Berto), but there was nothing wrong with that May 15 card.

I read that Showtime spent more then 2.5 million for Vasquez vs Marquez IV and I doubt they did half the ratings HBO did for Khan vs Paulie/Ortiz vs Campbell.

Showtime offered $2.5 million dollars for a fourth fight, and the Staples Center in California offered a very good site fee to host the event. Both fighters turned it down.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=23182

The fighters turned it down but I doubt they took the fight for less then what they were initially offered.

[warp1432]

I read that Showtime spent more then 2.5 million for Vasquez vs Marquez IV and I doubt they did half the ratings HBO did for Khan vs Paulie/Ortiz vs Campbell.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=23182

The fighters turned it down but I doubt they took the fight for less then what they were initially offered.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4714877

With Showtime paying $1.6 million for the fight and the camps on a 50-50 deal, it was the easily the biggest payday for each fighter.

[mrpain81]

Sorry Bscene I have to take Rafaels word for it

You think Showtime lowered the offer? Pretty weird these conflicting reports.

[Heru]

The money was well spent. Good night of fights and it brought in good ratings.

Hauser has a huge agenda against GBP and HBO, particularly HBO. Not sure why.

I know, but they really could do a better job at matchmaking, pressuring promoters for those matches, and deciding how much those fights are worth to them.

They've done a better job in 2010 with profiling the best fighter in a division and just letting people know about the best fighters within a division.

I remember HBO had a budget of 40+ million for an entire year and spent it on some bull**** fights. You should have a #1 fighter in a division fighting the #2 in the division as often as possible. The best fights come off when it does (Adamek-Cunningham as an example) either that or the #1 fighting the most popular fighter around the division.

[Heru]

Sorry Bscene I have to take Rafaels word for it

You think Showtime lowered the offer? Pretty weird these conflicting reports.

I remember either Rafael, Bscene, or Israel's manager saying that Vazquez made 800K. IMO there was no other way, but a 50/50 split too and obviously after 2 years of neither of them fighting on TV the offer is going to decrease.

[Alex_Hayden]

They'll always find a way to put boxing on. It sells.

I thought the card was beyond solid vs no boxing at all, don't see what the problem is. Probably cause I aint reading all that **** to begin wtih, but also because I doubt boxing is ever going to disappear off the boob-tube.

[mrpain81]

yeah dude but both the articles are only 4 days apart and they are for the same fight, one has the site fee at 1.6M and the other at 2.5M. The other thing I'm thinking is the 1.6M was probably for the Marquez/Vasquez purse and the rest went to the rest of the card and promoters? I don't really know to be honest.

Also from what I've read the HBO budget is actually $60 million while the showtime budget is $20 million.

[Devils Advocate]

He left them out. Khan made 1.1 million and Paulie made around 450k. ESPN reported it in lead up

450K for Paulie, hell thats a good chunk of change. I hope he's saving and investing in properly.