If Tszyu's a quitter then so is Gatti!!

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  • elveiel
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    #31
    Originally posted by BadMagick
    I actually laughed out loud at that statement. The only way that would be true is that it'd be easier for Floyd to beat Hatton than it was for Hatton to beat Kostya. Hatton is not a world class BOXER, he's a brawler, and Kostya played into his game. Floyd won't do the same thing, and will beat him. It'd be a tough fight, but there's no way Floyd would lose that.

    I figured on Kostya landing a bomb early, and putting Ricky's lights out with that, but he never was able to. Floyd is much quicker, and more elusive than Kostya ever has been. It'd be a DAMN hard fight for Ricky to win, and you know it. The only reason you're saying it'd be easy is to try and piss Super_Lightweight off.

    It's Junior_Welterweight, not Light_Welterweight, by the way.



    Ricky also spun him around and cracked him in the back of the head in the first. His were intentional fouls.
    The Mayweather fight is no harder than the Tszyu fight on paper IMO, i know what makes you think that but there was a lot of things about Tszyu people were saying Hatton couldnt handle. I think Mayweather and Tszyu are very talented fighters, their both extremely good in very different ways, neither have proved to be better than the other.

    The only way to know who's the tougher opponent in the ring against Hatton is too fight him.

    I dont suppose it matters what weight you call it, its either super lightweight, light welter or junior welter.

    BTW, i'll give you that one, he was a bit excited and the nerves probably got to him a bit. I've never seen him do that sort of thing before.

    The low blow was fine though, that was just a bit of payback for Tszyu's low blows, i dont believe a fighter as good as Tszyu could land 3 low blows by mistake.
    Last edited by elveiel; 06-29-2005, 05:29 PM.

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    • ottoevans
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      #32
      the difference was that Gatti was getting killed and he said he wanted one more round (if he really mean it is another story) in the Kostya fight Kostya was still in the fight if he would have dropped Hatton in that round he could have won. I dont blame him for quitting , who am i to judge on a guy whos getting punched in the face over and over if hes a quiter or not.

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      • BadMagick
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        #33
        Originally posted by elveiel
        The Mayweather fight is no harder than the Tszyu fight on paper IMO, i know what makes you think that but there was a lot of things about Tszyu people were saying Hatton couldnt handle. I think Mayweather and Tszyu are very talented fighters, their both extremely good in very different ways, neither have proved to be better than the other. Either way, it won't be an easy fight for Ricky... or Floyd, for that matter.

        The only way to know who's the tougher opponent in the ring against Hatton is too fight him.

        I dont suppose it matters what weight you call it, its either super lightweight, light welter or junior welter.

        BTW, i'll give you that one, he was a bit excited and the nerves probably got to him a bit. I've never seen him do that sort of thing before.

        The low blow was fine though, that was just a bit of payback for Tszyu's low blows, i dont believe a fighter as good as Tszyu could land 3 low blows by mistake.
        The destruction of Gatti isn't what makes me think that, if that's what you were thinking. I've seen, probably, about ten of Mayweather's fights. He impresses me a lot. I don't think Ricky can keep up with him in terms of quick footedness, and handspeed. I really think Mayweather will win, should they fight, but Ricky definitely has a chance. He's a good pressure fighter, and he never lets up. He also has one of the best, if not the best, body attacks in the game right now.

        With the low blows, I've seen a lot of low blows happen from guys who are not dirty fighters, and they are unintentional.

        Finally, with the weight class thing, I've only heard it two ways, junior welter, or super lightweight. I didn't know that one of the sanctioning bodies made it light welterweight. You're right though, it doesn't really matter.

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        • elveiel
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          #34
          Originally posted by BadMagick
          The destruction of Gatti isn't what makes me think that, if that's what you were thinking. I've seen, probably, about ten of Mayweather's fights. He impresses me a lot. I don't think Ricky can keep up with him in terms of quick footedness, and handspeed. I really think Mayweather will win, should they fight, but Ricky definitely has a chance. He's a good pressure fighter, and he never lets up. He also has one of the best, if not the best, body attacks in the game right now.

          With the low blows, I've seen a lot of low blows happen from guys who are not dirty fighters, and they are unintentional.

          Finally, with the weight class thing, I've only heard it two ways, junior welter, or super lightweight. I didn't know that one of the sanctioning bodies made it light welterweight. You're right though, it doesn't really matter.
          Of course, you cant judge a fighter from one fight and i knew you wouldnt do that, i always watch Mayweather fight because he's so good. But its always a good styles match when your talking of elite fighters vs Ricky Hatton, he's got a chance against anyone because you cant find people like him to spar with, you have just gotta hope your style can beat him and i theory Mayweater could do that.

          I've always known it as light welter, its a UK thing. US call everything junior we call it light. We dont even call it 140lbs, its the 10 stone divison to most of us.

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          • Bombardier
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            #35
            Seems like Tszyu was a made-to-order opponent for Hatton, though, just like Gatti was for Mayweather. Of course Tszyu is the better figher of the two, but he's a slow stalker, and just the sort of guy that Hatton can tie up and take out of his game. People might not have realized that leading up to the fight as much as they should have, but just because Tszyu was the overhwleming favourite around here doesn't mean that Hatton is that much better for beating him.

            It seems like both fighters fought guys that were just the sort of guys they can beat up on, but because people assumed Gatti would lose but that Tszyu would win then Hatton gets a lot more credit for his win.

            Anyway, Mayweather is like the polar opposite to Tszyu, thought Hatton is no Gatti either.

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            • FrankJack
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              #36
              Doesn't matter how it happened or under what circumstances to me, if they didn't come out for the next round, regardless what round it was, they quit. On the real though, I still can't see the shame in quitting a fight when your getting beat down. Gatti had no chance of winning and it looked to me if he went the last 6 he would have gotten seriously hurt, Buddy made the right choice, he cared about his fighters health. I didn't see Tszyu having a chance to win that fight, he was a worn down and beat down fighter and Hatton had plenty more to give him, the last round would've been a lost cause. He didn't have the one punch in him to turn that around, that was shown in the previous rounds when he hit Hatton good shots. So, I can't see the shame in them quitting.

              I'll probably be the first to say it but, if I'm getting beat down like Gatti, or I'm the same condition that Tszyu was in, I'll throw the towel in if my corner doesn't do it first. A fighter's health comes before fan approval and appraisal.

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