Im sick of seeing threads calling Floyd Mayweather a ducker.

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  • Southpawkiller
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    #11
    Also can we please try stay clear of the Floyd v Manny fight....im sick to death of it to be honest.

    I dont think either ducked anyone really that was worthy/made business sense to fight

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    • check hook
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      #12
      Originally posted by Southpawkiller
      Shoogun, thanks for the clip. Agreed Floyd was caught totally offguard and didnt look comfortable, looked shell shocked. But again, why fight Tony for $8m when you can fight the champ for the same money and have an easier night...99% of people in floyds situation take the Baldomir fight, me included.


      The reason Manny took Cotto over Shane is essentially similar reasoning....in Manny's case less risk (stylistically) and more money (Cotto being a bigger draw) and no one should really begrudge Pac for that.....it's a business decision.......it's the same with any fighter fighting ODLH or Ricky Hatton.......it's financial.........

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      • Del Coqui
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        #13
        Originally posted by Southpawkiller
        Does it bother anyone else, except the so called *****'s, that is absolutely sick of seeing threads calling Floyd a Ducker.

        I would actually love to see someone show me where Floyd ducked an opponent.

        Everybody that has called him out he has fought. Just look at who he beat.

        Superfeather: Fought Corrales (No1 in division)

        Lightweight: Castillo (No 1 in division)

        Light WW: Gatti (WBC Champ)

        WW: Baldomir (Lineal champ)

        Super WW: Oscar Dela Hoya (WBC Champ)

        Its preety clear he ducked nobody from 130-140. To my knowledge Bob Arum nor Frank Warren wanted to pit either Cotto or hatton back when floyd was at 140 as they were still a bit green, especially Cotto.

        147Now i have heard people say he ducked Margarito, and to me its sheer ignorance. He got paid the same money ($8m) as the Margarito offer to fight the lineal legitimate WW champion. Why would he fight Margarito over Baldomir when number 1, Baldomir had the belts (especially the WBC which Floyd covets) and number two Margarito was a higher risk fight for no extra financial gain.

        Every fighter that called him out ie Hatton, Marquez and Mosley he fought all of them. Floyd himselof was calling out Oscar and Shane for years but neither would fight him as like the Margarito situation it was a high risk/low reward fight as Floyd was not the superstar at the time that he is now.

        Im not even touching the Pacman v Floyd issue as it will just bring *****s and *******s in Trolling.

        Also to the best of my knowledge Cotto when at 147 never called out Floyd. If he did I did not see the clip and i will stand corrected. (if someone could provide such a link brilliant)

        The only fighter that imo that you could argue that Floyd has so called ducked is Paul Williams, but then again what WW wants to fight Paul Williams with his sheer size. Neither Mosley nor Manny wanted anything to do with Paul and you cant blame them, his reach advantage is staggering. Paul williams is currently not a PPV star and therefore does not make business sense for any of the top names at WW to fight. And remeber boxing is a business.

        Finally I hope to hear your thoughts on the above and look forward to seeing the responses. Hopefully we can get an inteeligent debate going on the above although alot of threads iv seen recently just have people commenting while admitting they didnt read the post as it was "to long". That is just sheer ignorance.
        Actually, he did duck Margarito, afterwards, it turned out Baldomir beat Judah to become lineal champ and then Baldi gave him the fight for the same revenue.

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        • feefiflofum
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          #14
          mayweather is a ducker and you know it, thats why his ass announce hes retiring

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          • Southpawkiller
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            #15
            Originally posted by check hook
            The reason Manny took Cotto over Shane is essentially similar reasoning....in Manny's case less risk (stylistically) and more money (Cotto being a bigger draw) and no one should really begrudge Pac for that.....it's a business decision.......it's the same with any fighter fighting ODLH or Ricky Hatton.......it's financial.........
            Check Hook, totally agree with the points about it being a business. Some people forget that...do people really think Ali would fight Foreman for $1m for arguments sake if he could fight Frazier for $5m???

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              #16
              Originally posted by shogunn


              308, margarito asks for a fight, floyd looks like he saw a ghost


              hah this whole thing is edited.......his reactions are based on questions that have nothing to do about Margarito..............laughable.........cheers though....haven't seen this 1 for a long time.....

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              • Southpawkiller
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                #17
                Originally posted by Tu Pai
                Actually, he did duck Margarito, afterwards, it turned out Baldomir beat Judah to become lineal champ and then Baldi gave him the fight for the same revenue.
                Just wondering how its a duck if you fight the champ for the same money???the Tony offer was made around the same time as the Baldomir offer. Just curious. Not hating.

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                • Del Coqui
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                  #18
                  totally right........ fight vs Pac makes no business at all. so, if it doesn't make money it doesnt make sense, rather retire.

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                  • Del Coqui
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Southpawkiller
                    Just wondering how its a duck if you fight the champ for the same money???the Tony offer was made around the same time as the Baldomir offer. Just curious. Not hating.
                    No it wasn't, Margo fight was offered before Baldi fought Judah.

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                    • feefiflofum
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Southpawkiller
                      Check Hook, totally agree with the points about it being a business. Some people forget that...do people really think Ali would fight Foreman for $1m for arguments sake if he could fight Frazier for $5m???
                      , mayweather is not like pac, mayweather wasn't testing the welter waters like pac did and gauge who he needs to fight as a tune-up b4 entering welter, may been there at welter for years and didnt your ass said hes better than pac so he has no excuse not to fight pac, hes not testing nothing, hes ducking to the tee of the word,,,top that off, may woulda made alot of money off of pac, easily 2 million PPVS LMAO dumb ***** rationalizing floyd ducking manny out of fear

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