Comments Thread For: Vitali Klitschko: David Haye Continues To Be Afraid

[ChopperRead]

And, you little fool.....

post the link to showing that..... "wlad gave haye a 50-50 contract, with no option for future david haye fights"..... or go sit back in the corner.

And put down your Vitali doll and face the wall like I told you.

Damn fool kid.

Derek (edmonton, alberta)

Let me get this straight- Wlad is so desperate to get Haye in the ring that he caved in on Haye's ridiculous demand for a 50-50 split, and still Haye ducks ?

Dan Rafael (11:32 AM)

My understanding from the Klitschko side is that they offered 50-50 with no options and have been rebuffed.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat...ith-dan-rafael

[Boxing Scene]

Bottom line is Wlad and Vitali control boxing in Europe. Wlad is the UNIFIED #1 Ring Magazine champion. Haye has nothing they need whatsoever, all they want is to beat the guys ass and he don't want none.

If he wanted the fight, he wouldn't be calling out top 20+ heavyweights like Rahman and Harrison.

Defend that.

[boxingfan21]

Bottom line is Wlad and Vitali control boxing in Europe. Wlad is the UNIFIED #1 Ring Magazine champion. Haye has nothing they need whatsoever, all they want is to beat the guys ass and he don't want none.

If he wanted the fight, he wouldn't be calling out top 20+ heavyweights like Rahman and Harrison.

Defend that.

This is a good point. Now on to another.....
I don't know if anyone ever responded to the question about there ever being a rematch clause where the rematch actually is against a different fighter from the original fight?

My answer is... Who cares? This has nothing to do with this situation at all!!! As a matter of fact Haye called out both Klitchkos starting last year!!! If it is in the contract to have to rematch with the other brother, then that means he is guaranteed a shot at both brothers!!! WTF is the problem then?

[AntonTheMeh]

haye is scared ****e less.

[jameshepenstall]

Why would Haye be scared??? After what i saw with Sosnowski, Haye has more than enough skill to outpoint Klitschko over 12. He's just got to avoid that big bastard of a right hand straight/cross thing.

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Why would Haye be scared??? After what i saw with Sosnowski, Haye has more than enough skill to outpoint Klitschko over 12. He's just got to avoid that big bastard of a right hand straight/cross thing.

Haye could make a cup of tea, and play a game of chess while he waited for a Klit to try and land one of their SLOOOOW robotic swipes.

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Bottom line is Wlad and Vitali control boxing in Europe. Wlad is the UNIFIED #1 Ring Magazine champion. Haye has nothing they need whatsoever, all they want is to beat the guys ass and he don't want none.

If he wanted the fight, he wouldn't be calling out top 20+ heavyweights like Rahman and Harrison.

Defend that.

No, that's just a simplistic fan-viewpoint.

Your point is ripped to pieces by the fact that Vitali is screaming for Haye, and has been quoted on numerous occasions how he is desperate for K2 to hold all 4 World Titles.

How can you conveniently overlook that fact ?

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This is a good point. Now on to another.....
I don't know if anyone ever responded to the question about there ever being a rematch clause where the rematch actually is against a different fighter from the original fight?

My answer is... Who cares? This has nothing to do with this situation at all!!! As a matter of fact Haye called out both Klitchkos starting last year!!! If it is in the contract to have to rematch with the other brother, then that means he is guaranteed a shot at both brothers!!! WTF is the problem then?

OK, that is ridiciulous.

Go sleep with that whore over there, sure she's got syphilus, but so what?
You came in here looking to get your rocks off.

Dont be knieve, a rematch clause has to be against THE SAME FIGHTER, otherwise it's not a rematch..... is it?

Kinda the silliest thing that I thought I would be discussing here today.

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why are you defending haye??? simple question

OK, boxingking500.....

I apologise for the way that I spoke to you earlier, I was out of line.

No excuse, but an earlier poster got me riled, and then you jumped in the middle as I was returning fire..... but I should not have reacted like that, and I apologise.

It started here.....

Actually, I don't feel like leaving it there either.... OK smartass, I am actually a Klitschko fan as well, but seeing that you went to allllllllll the trouble of calling me ******, as well as taking the rather simplistic approach by insinuating that Haye is hiding out back in the bike-sheds..... tell me why Wlad will not fight his own rematches?

My point was NEVER about the Klit Bros, it was ALWAYS about Haye. I do not for one second think that Wlad was "scared" of Corrie in the traditional sense of the word, anymore than I think that Haye is "scared" of Wlad, in the traditional sense of the word.

Surely you must have seen the point that I was trying to make?

edgarg decided that it was convenient for him to ignore all of his supposed knowledge about boxing economics/negotiations, and childishly label Haye a coward. But he did not like it when exactly the same equation was applied to Wlad.

You ask why I defend Haye? Didn't you read this post?

Interesting? It's a fkn joke.

I have been saying for weeks that its a fkn joke the way that the kids on this site use the word "ducking". Mostly ex-WWF fans I swear.

Floyds ducking Mosley, now he's duckin Manny. All of a sudden Bradley is ducking everyone, in spite of his competition faced to date. Pavlik's a ducker, Williams is a ducker. Marquez is ducking Khan and Katsidis and Bradley and Alexander. Lopez is a ducker, Haye is a ducker, Sosnowski is a ducker, no wait hes not..... Valuev is the ducker thats right. Dawson, well everyone knows hes a ducker, Shane ducked Berto, Berto ducked everyone, Bute ducked the super six, Manny ducked blood tests, Freddie ducked the interviews, Koncz ducked Ariza, Caballero's a ducker, Hatton ducked his diet, Maidana ducked a back injury, Khan ducked Ramadan, Paulie ducked the barber.....

..... and a lot of people ducked common sense when it comes to the sport of boxing.

I just think that it is knieve and simplistic, even childish, to assume that Haye is "scared" like some schoolkid, just because he didn't accept that ****ty offer for peanuts and a 2-bro 3-fight rematch clause.

Because you dont bend over when I ask you to, that mean you're scared?
Or does it mean that what I asked you to do was unreasonable?

Give it a fkn rest. Do you like people unfairly bashing Wlad and Vit?
Then why treat Haye like hes some little ***** just because he didn't let the K's walk all over him and treat him like ****.

Did you actually notice that when Haye refused the deal, he actually went on and fought the golem for his title? Sure, it was just the golem, but Vitali had been after that title for ages.

Can't you see what happened there?

It's about leverage.

This fight will happen, it's just that Haye has too many smart people around him who will not let him get mugged, or pissed on, in some silly 2-bro 3-fight rematch deal.

This fight will happen, just like the Bradley/Alexander fight will happen, just like the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight will happen, just like the Khan/Maidana fight will happen.

This is not some schoolboy marble-swap, this is Haye's only chance to set himself up for life. You think he wants to end up like Valuev?

By the way..... you do realise that until he actually fights a Klit, then he makes NOTHING ! Of course he will take the fight.

He knows that he has little chance to beat either Vit or Wlad, so this needs to be done right.

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why are you defending haye??? simple question

Here is the main reason why you fail to understand Haye's position here......

Because you are a dedicated K fan, and you are still butt-hurt.

Haye initially came across like he had the biggest mouth that the world has ever seen, and he possibly may well have.

That arrogant son-of-a-***** followed Vit all the way to Germany, then walked into a restaurant wearing a t-shirt showing the K-bro's with severed heads, and then started a fight FFS

You hate him because he is an arrogant son-of-a-*****, he has personally insulted your favourite fighters (so, he has basically insulted you personally) and you have not yet had a chance to see him get put on his ass.

Just see this for what it is.

The fight will happen...... just not in such a way that one K get's to hold Haye down while the other K kicks him.

Haye will be called to account for his big mouth, patience my friend.