Comments Thread For: Vitali Klitschko: David Haye Continues To Be Afraid

[edgarg]

If you agree with me that this "ducking" thing is bull****..... and that this is all just tactical/financial positioning entering into what will be a huge round of contract negotiations..... then maybe I will let you go..... as I say, I am a Klitschko fan.

Otherwise.....
keep digging into that "fine assortment of descriptive adjectives"..... but, do not reply unless you answer my question.

I've answered your "question" (more like a harangue) several times already, since I have patience enough to even accomodate fretful little grandnephews. What are you really after other than maybe, some writing exercise, or a little muscle-flexing......maybe??

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You cannot deny that it was a NORMAL CHAMPION'S contract with THE ADDED SWEETNER of a fight with V. Klitschko, who just happened to be the WBC champion, a UNIQUE opportunity for Haye to win all FOUR BELTS, and become the first really legitimate champion since Mike Tyson.

I would guess-and this is ALL I can do-and you too, that the contracts offered and sighned by every opponent of the Klitschkos are the same contract offered to Haye. I don't know why you're making such a fuss...................

Take that box off your head.

You cannot deny that it was a NORMAL CHAMPION'S contract.....

I can, and I did. You did not reply.

So, I will ask you this for the second time.....

Name one fight within the history of boxing, where the contract contained a rematch clause that stipulated whereupon after beating the champ, the challenger (now champion) would have to fight ANYONE OTHER THAN the old champ?

It's kinda not really much of a rematch if you fight someone else..... is it?

You cannot deny that it was a NORMAL CHAMPION'S contract with THE ADDED SWEETNER of a fight with V. ..................

The added sweetener?

I will say again, take that box off your head.....
it was a MANDATORY STIPULATION that was to be included in the fight contract. You make it sound like they added in a free trip to bali.

ANSWER MY QUESTION.....
Name one fight within the history of boxing, where the contract contained a rematch clause that stipulated whereupon after beating the champ, the challenger (now champion) would have to fight ANYONE OTHER THAN the old champ?

Klitschko, who just happened to be the WBC champion, a UNIQUE opportunity for Haye to win all FOUR BELTS, and become the first really legitimate champion since Mike Tyson.

Now you're ducking me by peddling me Don King "this will make me, ooops I mean you rich" crap. Answer my two questions.....

I would guess-and this is ALL I can do-and you too, that the contracts offered and sighned by every opponent of the Klitschkos are the same contract offered to Haye. I don't know why you're making such a fuss...................

RUBBISH !!

Answer my two questions.....

1.) Name one fight within the history of boxing, where the contract contained a rematch clause that stipulated whereupon after beating the champ, the challenger (now champion) would have to fight ANYONE OTHER THAN the old champ?

2.) This thing that you have with "ducking", or "bitching out", or whatever.....
you know, the "thing" that you are currently directing toward Haye..... how does Wlad not fighting his own rematches fit in with your "ducking" thing?

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If you agree with me that this "ducking" thing is bull****..... and that this is all just tactical/financial positioning entering into what will be a huge round of contract negotiations..... then, maybe I will let you go.....

Otherwise..... ANSWER MY QUESTIONS !!

[edgarg]

If you agree with me that this "ducking" thing is bull****..... and that this is all just tactical/financial positioning entering into what will be a huge round of contract negotiations..... then maybe I will let you go..... as I say, I am a Klitschko fan.

Otherwise.....
keep digging into that "fine assortment of descriptive adjectives"..... but, do not reply unless you answer my question.

Under normal circumstances, I WOULD accept that Haye's shennanigans are nothing more than normal business posturing, before the REAL bargaining commencea, BUT..............
this is different. The NORMAL way of discussing contracts is, that if a proposal is made to you, which you do not want to accept, you point this out, and bring forward YOUR OWN conditions which you want to include. If they are acceptable, well and good, or they may be amended by the champion's rep, other clauses or compromises may appear, the negotiators may scan them with an appearance if severity and dubiousness, may point out other little things, like wanting free towels, or lollipops, and then after sweating all over the documents for a few days, so that the principals can see that they are earning their exorbitant fees, they shake hand and the deal is made...............

How else would you suggest it be done, and why, since you like asking simple questions, has not Mr. Haye's counter ptoposals seen the light of day????? You don't know, and neither do the millions of waiting boxing fans.

So the ONE and ONLY viable answer seems to spring forth in full bloom. You know exactly what that is.

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I've answered your "question" (more like a harangue) several times already, since I have patience enough to even accomodate fretful little grandnephews. What are you really after other than maybe, some writing exercise, or a little muscle-flexing......maybe??

You have ducked both of my questions, and YOU KNOW IT

Your other comment.....

some writing exercise, or a little muscle-flexing[/B]......maybe??

I assumed that is what you were doing when you said this.....

No trouble at all Pal, ANYTIME. If you like I have a fine assortment of descriptive adjectives, that I haven't used for a long time

Two poor lil questions, still gettin lonely, waitin for you to answer.....

Unless, you decide to take that box off your head and come to the only possible rational conclusion.....

If you agree with me that this "ducking" thing is bull****..... and that this is all just tactical/financial positioning entering into what will be a huge round of contract negotiations..... then, maybe I will let you go.....

Otherwise..... ANSWER MY QUESTIONS !!

[edgarg]

Take that box off your head.



I can, and I did. You did not reply.

So, I will ask you this for the second time.....

Name one fight within the history of boxing, where the contract contained a rematch clause that stipulated whereupon after beating the champ, the challenger (now champion) would have to fight ANYONE OTHER THAN the old champ?

It's kinda not really much of a rematch if you fight someone else..... is it?



The added sweetener?

I will say again, take that box off your head.....
it was a MANDATORY STIPULATION that was to be included in the fight contract. You make it sound like they added in a free trip to bali.

ANSWER MY QUESTION.....
Name one fight within the history of boxing, where the contract contained a rematch clause that stipulated whereupon after beating the champ, the challenger (now champion) would have to fight ANYONE OTHER THAN the old champ?



Now you're ducking me by peddling me Don King "this will make me, ooops I mean you rich" crap. Answer my two questions.....



RUBBISH !!

Answer my two questions.....

1.) Name one fight within the history of boxing, where the contract contained a rematch clause that stipulated whereupon after beating the champ, the challenger (now champion) would have to fight ANYONE OTHER THAN the old champ?

2.) This thing that you have with "ducking", or "bitching out", or whatever.....
you know, the "thing" that you are currently directing toward Haye..... how does Wlad not fighting his own rematches fit in with your "ducking" thing?

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If you agree with me that this "ducking" thing is bull****..... and that this is all just tactical/financial positioning entering into what will be a huge round of contract negotiations..... then, maybe I will let you go.....

Otherwise..... ANSWER MY QUESTIONS !!

I'm getting reading delirium, and have no intention of going through your rubbish. I have only seen with my own eyes, some ordinary, normal everyday boxing contracts, pre-printed, with vacant spaces for clauses desirous of being included. And this was only because my uncle was a boxing promoter, and I was a nosy little boxer.

Give us all the wisdom you have accumulated from being in the intimate circles of present day champions, including Mr. Haye, that valourous knoght of the Order of Pugilistica, successor to Lennox Lewis, Lord Definnnitly of Absolutia. {Absolutia being his family seat}

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You have ducked both of my questions, and YOU KNOW IT

Your other comment.....

I assumed that is what you were doing when you said this.....



Two poor lil questions, still gettin lonely, waitin for you to answer.....

Unless, you decide to take that box off your head and come to the only possible rational conclusion.....

If you agree with me that this "ducking" thing is bull****..... and that this is all just tactical/financial positioning entering into what will be a huge round of contract negotiations..... then, maybe I will let you go.....

Otherwise..... ANSWER MY QUESTIONS !!

You didn't notice....tut-tut, shame on you, I said, referring to the adjectives, that I hadn't used them for some time. And I haven't, but if you want to indulge in a sort of slanging match, i can dig them out.

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You didn't notice....tut-tut, shame on you, I said, referring to the adjectives, that I hadn't used them for some time. And I haven't, but if you want to indulge in a sort of slanging match, i can dig them out.

I do not want to indulge in a sort of slanging match.

You started this conversation by calling me ******, and by calling Haye a ducker. Well Sir, you have been called to task for your impetuous childish comments.

I want you to do one of two things.....

1.) take that box off your head, and come to the only possible rational conclusion..... that this "ducking" thing is bull****..... and that this is all just tactical/financial positioning entering into what will be a huge round of contract negotiations

2.) answer my two questions

You HAVE NOT provided an example in history where a successful challenger was forced to rematch somebody OTHER THAN the champion that he beat.

And you HAVE NOT explained why Wlad will not fight rematches.

You came up with some novel trying to justify three of Wlad's losses.....
.....actually, I think that you were just trying to show everyone your..... what was it again..... aaaah, here we go..... "I have a fine assortment of descriptive adjectives, that I haven't used for a long time".

Well, good for you..... please use your lil box of adjectives to explain why Wlad did not rematch Corrie, and why there was a 2-bro clause in the proposed Haye contract?

I swear, your'e squirming more than Haye is.

BTW..... how is your earlier "******" comment looking right about now ?

Maybe that could be the third question that I ask you today, that will remain un-answered?

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You didn't notice....tut-tut, shame on you, I said, referring to the adjectives, that I hadn't used them for some time. And I haven't, but if you want to indulge in a sort of slanging match, i can dig them out.

I wrote this post yesterday, in reply to the failed "ducking" accusations directed toward Amir Khan and Marcos Maidana.....

It appears neither Khan nor Maidana were ducks. Interesting.

Interesting? It's a fkn joke.

I have been saying for weeks that its a fkn joke the way that the kids on this site use the word "ducking". Mostly ex-WWF fans I swear.

Floyds ducking Mosley, now he's duckin Manny. All of a sudden Bradley is ducking everyone, in spite of his competition faced to date. Pavlik's a ducker, Williams is a ducker. Marquez is ducking Khan and Katsidis and Bradley and Alexander. Lopez is a ducker, Haye is a ducker, Sosnowski is a ducker, no wait hes not..... Valuev is the ducker thats right. Dawson, well everyone knows hes a ducker, Shane ducked Berto, Berto ducked everyone, Bute ducked the super six, Manny ducked blood tests, Freddie ducked the interviews, Koncz ducked Ariza, Caballero's a ducker, Hatton ducked his diet, Maidana ducked a back injury, Khan ducked Ramadan, Paulie ducked the barber.....

..... and a lot of people ducked common sense when it comes to the sport of boxing.

gosh about the best post i've seen on here

Sorry bro, but I think that you're ducking common-sense on this one.

[boxingking500]

leaduppercut... wow i cant believe your actully defending haye..

you know he is ducking wlad... stop making freaking excuses

and you call yourself a klit-fan...wow

people defending haye ducking wlad are pathetic

[boxingking500]

leaduppercut is a joke, just like all the other fangirls supporting haye ducking wladimir..