My Cotto-Foreman Breakdown

[Heru]

You could be right, havent made my bet just yet, wish Foreman moved his head just a little more than he does, could be a mowing down over rounds by Cotto, but Cotto has alot stacked against him in this fight.

I know what you mean... I try to never go against a fighter who might be bigger, stronger, and faster. If Foreman actually has these advantages in the fight, it'll be a long night for MC. The close decision wars against Tsurkan and Thompson are not a good look for Foreman though.

U think Yuri can punch? If Cotto is able to cut the ring off well, Yuri is not seeing the final bell IMO...

If Cotto is lured into boxing match, Yuri could take it...or if Yuri can make Cotto respect his "power"

Yes, I think his quick overhand right can do enough damage to this version of Cotto. Cotto blocked Urkal's right hand and countered with his left hook to the body, if he gets back to that it'll make the fight easier for him.

You're right about the last part.

I think Foreman's being underrated. He has good movement and footwork, in shape, knows when to attack, and clinch. There is no doubt Cotto will attack the body, they'll try and slow Foreman down asap. IMO, they will. Yuri is going to go thru deep waters because Cotto will eventually turn this fight physical. The only thing that's suspect is Foreman's chin. If he take a punch, he'll beat Cotto.

I don't think Cotto's shot, a great trainer was what he needed. I think he'll be a beast as always but I think Yuri will win by SD. I don't see a KO happening for either fighter.

I could see Yuri getting a SD. This will not be an easy fight for either fighter, but I do favor Cotto's accuracy to get the attention of the judges more than Foreman' attack.

[Bhopreign]

I know what you mean... I try to never go against a fighter who might be bigger, stronger, and faster. If Foreman actually has these advantages in the fight, it'll be a long night for MC. The close decision wars against Tsurkan and Thompson are not a good look for Foreman though.

The disadvantages I was referring to were fighting at a new weight for the first time, getting beat badly twice over the last two years, and the fact that Im sure Arum is pulling for Foreman to win, promoters are usually right about these things moreso than not.

[Heru]

If its a close fight then Foreman will get the nod.

I hope everybody gets a fair shake. I wouldn't put it past Arum though.

Cotto 116-112...or late TKO. That's my pick...

Maybe I haven't seen enough Foreman but I'm not really impressed...or I think Cotto has more left than he really does...

I can see a late KO, but Cotto's gonna need some help (from a cut) and really be relentless. Yuri isn't a punk and IMO Cotto's power won't be that good for that. Remember it took Cotto 11 rounds to stop Judah, Urkal probably could have finished the fight if it weren't for his trainer, and other than the broken jaw, Malignaggi was straight.

The biggest question for me is if Foreman's size advantage will be put to use. If Cotto doesn't get bullied around and can take Foreman's shots, Foreman's getting stopped. Cotto of old would feast on the skilled boxer types like Paulie, Quintana, Judah etc.

Also, I'm curious to see how Cotto is going to handle the move up in weight and Emmanuel in his corner. If he's not lethargic, then Yuri is getting hurt.

It's going to be an intersting fight.

Foreman's size advantage will be put to use by absorbing Cotto's shots better, not by using it to tire out Cotto. I don't expect Cotto to be lethargic, Foreman would beat him up if he was. If he isn't I expect my breakdown to come to fruition.

For starters I got Cotto by decision. That said, contrary to what so many think regarding Yuri's movement I think he's going to stay in the pocket more and try to get off his shots first when Cotto plants his feet to land his.

They key to victory for Cotto is taking Yuri's range away by committing to his jab and going straight to the body.

If Yuri opts for an outside fight with a his arm reach and decent jab it could spell fits for Cotto.

If he stays in the pocket, it'll be because of Cotto's bodywork or because he'd be trying to stop him. The first would be great for Cotto, the second would be great for Foreman.

[Heru]

The disadvantages I was referring to were fighting at a new weight for the first time, getting beat badly twice over the last two years, and the fact that Im sure Arum is pulling for Foreman to win, promoters are usually right about these things moreso than not.

True, but I think he's seeing it as a win-win situation, instead of a loss if Cotto wins. Pacquiao doesn't want to fight Foreman, but would take a rematch against Cotto (after the first did 1+ mil).

IMO Steward is the best trainer at getting a fighters' confidence up. Look at what he's done with fighters that have gotten knocked out or lost badly.

Like I said, I usually don't go against fighters that might be bigger, stronger, and faster, but I will for this one. When a fighter has all those attributes, 99% of the time it means they will win.

[V.WEBB]

I think Foreman is going to surprise some people tomorrow night.

[Scott9945]

If its a close fight then Foreman will get the nod.

Why? Cotto is the one who brings in the money. This is the first fight in Foreman's career that anyone even cared about.

[Dick Buffman]

I expect Foreman to school him. Cotto is not focused and I think he's damaged goods.

The reports of him ignoring Steward and not giving it 100% sold me on him losing.

Not to mention the fact that Cotto wasn't that fast at 47', I only expect him to be slower and more plodding at 54'. Foreman will move, hit, move hit and he can take a shot.

Outside of a lucky punch or Foreman coming in drugged or unfocused, I can't see Cotto winning this fight.

[j.one]

I expect Foreman to school him. Cotto is not focused and I think he's damaged goods.

The reports of him ignoring Steward and not giving it 100% sold me on him losing.

Not to mention the fact that Cotto wasn't that fast at 47', I only expect him to be slower and more plodding at 54'. Foreman will move, hit, move hit and he can take a shot.

Outside of a lucky punch or Foreman coming in drugged or unfocused, I can't see Cotto winning this fight.

In agreement, something about Cotto with all his problems and his tattoos and all that remind me of Tyson at the end, when he would come in supposedly ready until he got hit and frustrated, then he melted down. Cotto IMO will melt down again if he can't hurt Foreman early.

[sigrab jr]

^^Yeah the main thing to me is how much Cotto has left...if he has a good amount left I think he'll stop or systematically breakdown Foreman...Foreman may see the final bell though...

I don't think Yuri can hurt Cotto unless he lands something big...

Regardless in the later rounds I think Cotto will box and move...Foreman could edge him there if its competitive early...

I'm still goin with Miguel tho...only time we've seen him lose is when the other fighter is far superior in power or ability...

Ex, if you have seen Cotto fights, you know he always get hit with a big shot. Corley, Torres, Judah, Clottey, Pacquiao, Quintana, Margarito hell even Malignaggi landed a pretty big shot against him. I don't see the bigger Foreman at 154 not landing some big shots on Cotto. Remember Cotto is no Pernell Whitaker in the ring. His main thing is his pressure and power and let's face it, last guy he pressured was done, Zab Judah, or just not good at all like Gomez and Jennings.

[Heru]

I expect Foreman to school him. Cotto is not focused and I think he's damaged goods.

The reports of him ignoring Steward and not giving it 100% sold me on him losing.

Not to mention the fact that Cotto wasn't that fast at 47', I only expect him to be slower and more plodding at 54'. Foreman will move, hit, move hit and he can take a shot.

Outside of a lucky punch or Foreman coming in drugged or unfocused, I can't see Cotto winning this fight.

I just saw the thread you were talking about:

I should've seen this thread before making my own. IMO, just like Valero dishing the dirt out on Pacquiao, this should be true. People just don't make up stories like bad training camps and details of them up.

If it's true, Foreman is gonna **** him up.

Cotto could not afford a less than 100% training camp. If he really was going into a shell against his sparring partner, Cotto could get stopped after seeing that Foreman won't back down.