Mayweather has trouble with Southpaws ?

[Khalid X]

This whole adjustments **** is overrated, if you open a door that shoots scorching flames, close it and try another door.
Most elite know how to adjust, as they are clear headed in the ring, not panicking or fighting on instincts(which does happen if your fatigued, learned that first hand).
Is it really that amazing? It's a trail and error/adaption that is common between every human.

Bro I agree 100% and I could break it down further but I will just let these guys believe no one will outsmart or get past Floyd's adjustments.

[purecyse]

So no one ever thought that maybe Floyd just starts slow?
And when he starts working doing the usual like pull countering the jab, leaping left hook etc, key word "countering"(the thing that will have near enough everyone hesitant to throw)

Fighters can get bored in the ring, and if floyd starts slow maybe that's why he got tagged heavy by mosley, maybe after that he simply woke up and become more alert, not necessarily "adjusted".

Possibility?

Don't take it the wrong way, im not doubting Floyd's ability to be clear-headed in the ring and "adjust", but that's just it, most with a clear-head(elite fighters) can/will adjust.

i don't see it as necessarily starting slow. if the common information passed around about him is accurate, he doesn't watch tapes. with that in mind, his uncle/ father can tell him what to watch out for but, it seems after he has seen it he figures out how to take it away. that i have to call an adjustment and if you say that all elite fighters are examples of that word then i may have to bump what he does up to neutralizing.

when mosley caught him with the heavy overhand right, i was bothered because he didn't do something fundamental for him which was a deep roll of his shoulder to take away that straight path to his chin. many people didn't notice that mosley tried that same jab to the body, overhand right combination later on in the fight because it was made to look so harmless afterward.

i won't say that people don't sometimes get carried away with things when describing their favorite fighters but i don't think they are in this case. we've seen elite fighters get hit by the same punch round after round (ex. straight right, left hook). we've seen elite fighters get baited by the same actions round after round (ex. floyd dropping his hands to "draw" the jab for his pull counter). it's not often we see elite fighters just run out of answers for what someone is doing to them and seem to resign to just taking his punches.

his uncle, roger, doesn't call it adjustments though so i wouldn't mind just saying he completely out-thinks his opponents.

[-EX-]

They've given him some difficulties early on but Floyd always has shown he can adjust to what they bring to the table...I don't think Pac would be any different...

although Pac is better than any southpaw Floyd has encountered...

[Steak]

Floyd generally doesnt have trouble in his fights, so the ones he does people usually highlight.

it is true that Maywether had a little more trouble with Judah than he should have, and did get hurt fairly bad against Corley. and then theres always that sparring video of him vs Spadaforda in '99 I believe, and hes a southpaw...

on the other hand, he totally dominated Sharmba Mitchell in one of his coolest performances of his career imo, but that might be because Mitchell was pretty lousy at that point in his career.

I wouldnt say 'omg he sucks vs lefties' but they have overall given him a bit more trouble than a conventional fighter of the same quality.

[-EX-]

The two guys who gave Floyd his most trouble actually aren't southpaws (De La Hoya & Castillo)....

[Steak]

The two guys who gave Floyd his most trouble actually aren't southpaws (De La Hoya & Castillo)....

yea, but you have to take into account the quality of the fighter.

I would conisider a lightweight Castillo and 154 DeLaHoya substantially better than Judah and Corley.

[BigHeat]

TriGaFinGa, do you consider Mosley an elite fighter?

[Bee Keepz]

Pac is on drugs-Floyd Sr.

Good one. There we go.

[purecyse]

and how do you nuetralize a punch? intimidate so the person doesn't throw using mean glares and countering etc? or is it as simple as keeping your glove up?(there's an adjustment/neutralizer)

Don't get Floyds reflexes mixed up with "adjusting", other fighters are getting tagged by the same punch but they know it's coming, doing something about it is when your talent comes into play, and there is no denying Floyd Mayweather Jr. is very talented.

Maybe he didn't get hit by Mosley's combo the second time because he was more alert, like i said earlier, Floyd's reflexes would definitely allow him to see it coming from a mile away, there is no such thing as simply nuetralizing a punch, not like some video game where you throw a potion on the guy and his left arm falls off(i've never played a game like this, im just saying)
and i doubt he has the fighters timed like some tennis ball machines firing every 3 seconds, and even if that was the case, people will throw different punches depending on YOUR position.

Do you get what im saying? Floyd just turns things up after the first couple of rounds, he's warmed up, reflexes at it's peak, blood pumping faster, more flexible, senses heightened.
Obviously there is some adjusting, but it doesn't take a genius to think "damn, i just realised he uses that lazy jab hoping for me to throw a left over it so he can counter me with his left, lets see what he thinks about the right" or **** you don't even have to figure all that out, you could simply be thinking "damn, left counter aint workin, time to try the right" and when you're one of the fastest guys around, with one of the best reflexes, it should be no problem achieving this goal, just concentrate.

indeed. i can't dispute that theory. now where was mosley's adjustment to something so simple?

i suppose, after trying to set up the overhand right for a repeat, mosley thought "i can't get it in the same way due to him rolling his shoulder and leaning down. either i'm completely missing it or it's grazing off his shoulder. i've watched the tapes and this is no different than what he's been using to take away the right hand his whole career."

stepping to his left and looping a hard left hook would have continued the pressure and gave him a new angle of attack. i'm an amatuer that got that idea from watching the roy jones jr./ james toney fight years ago. like most things in boxing, not hard to think about or execute, even if it doesn't work to perfection. i'm not ashamed to say that i believe there was something there that i was completely missing as to why that wasn't a good adjustment.

more importantly, maybe i'm looking at it from the wrong perspective. it seems to get progressively worse for many fighters as the fight goes on. most adjustments/ neutralizations are simple, i completely agree with that, can you point out similar adjustments his opponents have made in the last...seven years that weren't simply "fight harder"?

[Bee Keepz]