Is Ali a bit overrated ?

[Vadrigar.]

Quote:
Originally Posted by WladIsTheChamp
Ali is undoubtedly an ATG and his accomplishments against his opposition at that time, was great. But he is seriously overrated by posters especially when being compared in H2H matches against current heavies. Tyson would have destroyed him, so would Lewis, so would both Klitschkos. He is being brought up as some mythical figure by some posters here, as if he was possessed some supernatural talent but you look at the fact that he was the physical specimen for his time and then look at the records of his opponents, all of a sudden he is not the Zeus some claim that he was.

No way tyson would destroy him. Ali would give tyson a nervous breakdown and then mentally destroy him in the ring. The physical part would be easy.

LOL at lewis destroying him. Come on? there is no way that was possible.

No one can beat Ali in h2h matches. Only larry holmes has the greatest chance, but even then Ali would win a split decision.

All I am saying is: WATCH the Cleveland Williams fight. The protection of god was around him in that fight.
FOUND IT, post #69, LOL!!!! What exactly did you mean by that? You are a loon, face it...

Exactly, what DID I mean by that?

Dont ever twist my quotes again.

"The protection of god was around him in that fight." =/= "god helped him win the fight"

The context of this quote was in relation to h2h matches. If any heavyweight in history fought Ali on that same night, they would all loose. That was the reason I used that quote.

[Boxingwizard]

Ali beat

Sonny Liston - Hall of Famer
Floyd Patterson - Hall of Famer
George Chuvalo
Joe Fraizer - Hall of Famer
Ken Norton - Hall of Famer
Goerge Foreman - Hall of Famer
Earnie Shavers
Ernier Terrell,
Oscar Bonevana
etc

How is Ali overrated?

[knn]

"The protection of god was around him in that fight." =/= "god helped him win the fight"

The protection of god was not around him in that fight. Unless you use "god" in the sense of "jockstrap".

Who is that funny person in your avatar, by the way?

And don't you dare to twist my words.



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[Boxingwizard]

Anyone who thinks the Klitschko's would beat Ali are a bunch of dumb ****s who shouldn't be analyzing boxing.

[Vadrigar.]

The protection of god was not around him in that fight. Unless you use "god" in the sense of "jockstrap".

And don't you dare to twist my words.

you sound confused......

Try posting something that makes sense.

Also try looking at the poll. What do you see?

[knn]

Ali is the Ricky Martin of boxing.

Hahaha, must remember this!

[knn]

WATCH the Cleveland Williams fight. The protection of god was around him in that fight.
FOUND IT, post #69, LOL!!!! What exactly did you mean by that? You are a loon, face it...

I know what mm.uha.mm means by that: That Ali needed protection although Cleveland was severely handicapped.

I am fine with such a statement.

[The_Demon]

The greatest HW of all time in many peoples opinions,including boxing experts/ historians and a top 5 ATG

I dont think hes overrated at all

[Vadrigar.]

I know what mm.uha.mm means by that: That Ali needed protection although Cleveland was severely handicapped.

I am fine with such a statement.

That's not what I meant read my post explaining the context of the statement.

[RayLeonard82]

Quote:
Originally Posted by WladIsTheChamp
Ali is undoubtedly an ATG and his accomplishments against his opposition at that time, was great. But he is seriously overrated by posters especially when being compared in H2H matches against current heavies. Tyson would have destroyed him, so would Lewis, so would both Klitschkos. He is being brought up as some mythical figure by some posters here, as if he was possessed some supernatural talent but you look at the fact that he was the physical specimen for his time and then look at the records of his opponents, all of a sudden he is not the Zeus some claim that he was.

No way tyson would destroy him. Ali would give tyson a nervous breakdown and then mentally destroy him in the ring. The physical part would be easy.

LOL at lewis destroying him. Come on? there is no way that was possible.

No one can beat Ali in h2h matches. Only larry holmes has the greatest chance, but even then Ali would win a split decision.

All I am saying is: WATCH the Cleveland Williams fight. The protection of god was around him in that fight.
FOUND IT, post #69, LOL!!!! What exactly did you mean by that? You are a loon, face it...

Buster Douglas used a similair style to Ali and beat Tyson easy and that was a slower version. 1960s Ali is much quicker than 1990 Buster Douglas. Question? Who have the Klitschkos beaten? This in a era with a very weak heavyweight division. I do know that Wladimer has been knocked out twice and if he was in the 1990s he would have gotten knocked out like 5 times by now. Nobody can touch that weak chin cause the division is weak. Many of the top USA athletes that are 6-4, 6,5 250 pounds are playing football or basketball if there 6-8 250 pounds.

If this was the 1970s and you had these same basketball, football and boxers then the USA athletes would probably box because back then there was more potential money as a boxer. So Wladimer would be facing multiple guys who are his size or bigger and would touch that weak chin of his.

Knocked out TWICE by BUMS. Ali at 40 still couldnt be stopped by champion Trevor berbick.