Muhammed Ali 1967-1970: The "What-if" era

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  • Vadrigar.
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    #11
    Originally posted by Forza
    Ali was overrated but come on that is just ridiculous. You must be related to frazier.
    Muhammad Ali isn't overrated. It is impossible to really overate him. If you call Ali overrated then Ray Robinson is also overrated.

    The reason why people praise him so much is because he REALLY ACTUALLY was that GREAT.

    The same can't really be said of the person in your avatar.

    Also something for you to think about: Muhammad Ali was the THREE time LINEAL heavyweight champion of the world.

    Did floyd mayweather/pacquaio unify their respective divisions when he moved up in weight?
    Last edited by Vadrigar.; 06-01-2010, 12:27 PM.

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    • infamous larryx
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      #12
      how can ali be overated??3 time heavyweight champ(back when there was only 1 damn belt)whixh means he had to fight the best in order to be the best...no more needs to be said

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        #13
        Frazier beat him...

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        • Vadrigar.
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          #14
          Originally posted by LeftHookFrazier
          Frazier beat him...
          After a three year lay off. This is not an EXCUSE it is a legitimate REASON.

          Watch Muhammad Ali's fight with Cleveland Williams:

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            #15
            Originally posted by LeftHookFrazier
            Frazier beat him...
            Yes, but he avenged the loss, just like when he lost to Spinks.

            If Ali had stayed retired after beating Spinks in the rematch, he would've retired as current and 3 time HW champ having beaten everyone on his resume (ala Lennox Lewis).

            Not too shabby.

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              #16
              Originally posted by lefthookfrazier
              frazier beat him...
              and ali beat frazier 2 times

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                #17
                Originally posted by larryx2010
                and ali beat frazier 2 times
                blind Frazier whooped Ali's ass

                true story

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                • Forza
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MmuhammadM
                  Muhammad Ali isn't overrated. It is impossible to really overate him. If you call Ali overrated then Ray Robinson is also overrated.

                  The reason why people praise him so much is because he REALLY ACTUALLY was that GREAT.

                  The same can't really be said of the person in your avatar.

                  Also something for you to think about: Muhammad Ali was the THREE time LINEAL heavyweight champion of the world.

                  Did floyd mayweather/pacquaio unify their respective divisions when he moved up in weight?
                  Ali lost to nobodies like spinks, got floored by weak nobodies like chuck wepner, and made excuses when he lost. He also wouldnt give foreman a rematch. He was a great boxer, but still overrated.

                  Meanwhile, floyd mayweather jr is 41 - 0

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by LeftHookFrazier
                    blind Frazier whooped Ali's ass

                    true story
                    Ali beat him twice. Thats a 2:1 ratio of pure ass whooping.

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                    • Vadrigar.
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Forza
                      Ali lost to nobodies like spinks, got floored by weak nobodies like chuck wepner, and made excuses when he lost. He also wouldnt give foreman a rematch. He was a great boxer, but still overrated.

                      Meanwhile, floyd mayweather jr is 41 - 0
                      First of Ali fought Spinks with Parkinson's syndrome/old age and still won. Ali was essentially a shot fighter when he fought Spinks. Floyd would never accomplish anything like that because he would run away and retire.

                      Chuck wepner didn't floor ali, I watched the fight myself and he clearly slipped. In other words it was a bull**** "knockdown".

                      Ali never made excuses, he fought the best and took on all the challenges.

                      Foreman didn't deserve a title shot because he was beaten by someone (can't remember his name) and Ali fought the person who beat him.

                      Ali was not overrated. He was the greatest of all times because he proved it.

                      Meanwhile floyd mayweather has yet to top Ali's resume and even if he fights another 10 years, he won't do it. Why? because he would continue to cherry pick.

                      "undefeated don't mean ****"
                      Last edited by Vadrigar.; 06-01-2010, 01:00 PM.

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