Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao: A Decade of Dominance Honored

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

If you really go with year by year it is really close. But, pac deserved it. The most you could give Floyd is 5 years that he had that was better than Pac. But, you give Pac the other 5 years. At the most that Floyd deserved was co-FOTD. That is all he deserved. He didn't deserved FOTD by himself. Pac did.... Floyd 2003-2005 did nothing, 2008-20009 nothing. That is 5 years of doing nothing. Floyd 2000-2002 was the man, 2007 big money fights while Pac did nothing. 2003-2005 Pac did more, 2008-2009 pac did more. That is 5 where Pac won it. It all depends on who you give 2006 to. If you give to Floyd then he is co-FOTD and shares the title with Pac. If you give it a draw or to Pac then Pac is alone in FOTD.

This would make for a good thread. I go like this:

2000- Floyd
2001- Floyd
2002- Floyd
2003- Pac
2004- Floyd
2005- Floyd
2006- Floyd
2007- Floyd
2008- Pac
2009-Pac



In 2004: Floyd beat Chop Chop. Pac had a draw with JMM and beat 3K.

2005: I gave 05 to Floyd because Manny lost a fight.

2006: Floyd beat Judah and Baldomir 2 out of 3 of the Top WW's and won the 147 Lineal Title. In that same year Pac beat a shot Morales twice and beat Oscar Larios.

[jrosales13]

This would make for a good thread. I go like this:

2000- Floyd
2001- Floyd
2002- Floyd
2003- Pac
2004- Floyd
2005- Floyd
2006- Floyd
2007- Floyd
2008- Pac
2009-Pac

Oh Burner, no

[shogunn]

i dont understand why floyd fans are upset he didnt win FOTD, he's a quitter. He "retired" and didnt fight in the entire decade to avoid a hot division, and he conveniently came back when the division started to cool down. His last match of the decade was against a lightweight.

[jrosales13]

A draw with JMM>A win over Chop chop who was coming off a lost.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Oh Burner, no

This would make for a good thread. I go like this:

2000- Floyd
2001- Floyd
2002- Floyd
2003- Pac
2004- Floyd
2005- Floyd
2006- Floyd
2007- Floyd
2008- Pac
2009-Pac



In 2004: Floyd beat Chop Chop. Pac had a draw with JMM and beat 3K.

2005: I gave 05 to Floyd because Manny lost a fight.

2006: Floyd beat Judah and Baldomir 2 out of 3 of the Top WW's and won the 147 Lineal Title. In that same year Pac beat a shot Morales twice and beat Oscar Larios.

Year by year its interesting.

[Tamis!]

Dead horse mates! Don't worry about it.

[Arthas]

I'm gonna post this again so that people don't think I'm a ******* or a *****.
This is for the *******s, I agree with you Floyd is a cherry picker, a ducker, who never fought against true wordy opponents. He just elected to fight the right fighters at the right time, the exception being Castillo and he lost that first fight.
Now for the *****s I agree with you too, Pacquiao made Cotto fight at 145 and won a "half welterweight" title, and he might be on steroids (even though he is innocent until proven guilty). Pacquiao should take the tests. Pacquiao fought some better opposition but to prove he is not on PEDs he should take the tests.
So both sides are right. The conclusion, you shouldn't argue so much because they both suck (like you point out). I just embrace both views.

PS: But as much as I don't like *******s, I have to say that *****s are just insane. To say that Baldomir was a one of the top three welterweights, even to say he was a top welterweight is just unbelievable. We are talking about a guy with five loses and zero skill. In 2004 he beat Chop Chop another great achievement. This just goes to show how delusional *****s can be.

[Sugar Q]

A draw with JMM>A win over Chop chop who was coming off a lost.

You gotta be kidding:
Larios coming off a KO loss
Morales coming off a huge loss
Diaz coming off a KO loss
Oscar coming off a loss
Hatton coming off a KO loss
Cotto coming off a KO loss
and Clottey coming off a loss

Manny should be the "Coming off a loss fighter of the decade" cause aint no way a fighter with unresolved controversial fights and clear losses can be FOTD over a fighter that has dominated ALL his opponents and NEVER LOSS.They didnt give it to Calzaghe cause they knew they couldn't justify him over PBF even though this is still CLEARLY POLITICAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cortdawg25]

2000: Floyd was a champ and defended against a former titlist in Vargas; Pac went 3-0, stopping an undefeated future title challenger in Hussein. Edge = PBF

2001: Corrales was a great win, rated higher in the division and P4P by Ring at the time, and Hernandez and Chavez were both legit contenders, ending a memorable 130 reign which rates with some of the best ever at the weight; Pac had Ledwaba, who was in the hunt as far as being the best Jr. Feather at the time; Sanchez went to a technical draw Sanchez basically fouled his way to. Great year for both but Floyd had three good wins to Manny's one. Edge = PBF

2002: Pac beats a faded former titlist in Julio; Mayweather gets the benefit of the doubt against Castillo but mans up and takes the rematch, winning with a late pull away in another good fight spending the year as Lightweightchamp. Edge = PBF

2003: Floyd fights Sosa in a typical, ho-hum type fight after two hard ones; follows with N'Dou, a Jr. Lightweight who was rated tenth at 130 by Ring at the time in another ho-hum outing; Manny routs a future HOFer in Barrera for the Feather crown. Edge = Pac

2004: Pac draws with a future HOFer in Marquez, Floyd fights once against Corley and has a fun win. the fact PAC dropped JMM 3 times in the 1st rd and got a draw is a detraction for me. I understand the point about him being a future HOFer, but I can’t give him the edge in 04 for essentially losing a fight to JMM. Edge = Floyd

2005: Floyd fights three guys in Bruseles, Gatti, and Mitchell; Manny moves to 130, loses a close one to a Morales coming off a great year where he beat Chavez, hernandez, and Barrera. gatti was another title in another division. (Also coupled with the fact hatton defeated tzyu and was unwilling to fight Floyd at the time and cotto wasn’t ready as well.) pacquiao losing to Morales just doesn’t trump Floyd wining against gatti and receiving another belt in another division. Edge = Floyd

2006: Floyd fights Judah off a loss to Baldo and then Baldo for the Welter crown; Pac fights Morales off a loss to Raheem, Larios off a cut loss to Vasquez, and then Morales again. in my eyes beating the former undisputed champ of WW and the lineal champ of WW trumps beating a larios after defeat and an washed up Morales after defeat to raheem. I just don’t see how anyone can give that edge to Pac…that’s crazy to me! Edge = Floyd

2007: Pac wastes time with a fringe Feather contender in Solis and an unneccesary Barrera rematch; Floyd takes on Oscar for a belt at 54 and then knocks out the Jr. Welter champ in hatton. Edge = Floyd

2008: Floyd is off; Pac beats Marquez for the 130 crown in another great, close fight and probably gets too much love for beating Diaz at 135 and an Oscar whose just done. edge Pac.

2009: Floyd comes back and beats a Marquez, Pac beats Hatton and then cotto and becomes a lineal champ I 4 divisons and supposedly his 7th title in 7 weight classes. edge Pac

BY MY COUNT, THAT 3 YS TO 7, EDGE MAYWEATHER!!!! So how did the BWAA have Manny has the fighter of the decade?

[Sugar Q]

I'm gonna post this again so that people don't think I'm a ******* or a *****.
This is for the *******s, I agree with you Floyd is a cherry picker, a ducker, who never fought against true wordy opponents. He just elected to fight the right fighters at the right time, the exception being Castillo and he lost that first fight.
Now for the *****s I agree with you too, Pacquiao made Cotto fight at 145 and won a "half welterweight" title, and he might be on steroids (even though he is innocent until proven guilty). Pacquiao should take the tests. Pacquiao fought some better opposition but to prove he is not on PEDs he should take the tests.
So both sides are right. The conclusion, you shouldn't argue so much because they both suck (like you point out). I just embrace both views.

PS: But as much as I don't like *******s, I have to say that *****s are just insane. To say that Baldomir was a one of the top three welterweights, even to say he was a top welterweight is just unbelievable. We are talking about a guy with five loses and zero skill. In 2004 he beat Chop Chop another great achievement. This just goes to show how delusional *****s can be.

Dude you need to brush up on your boxing history:

What happen when Leon Spinks beat Ali?
When Lloyd Honeyghan beat Donald Curry?
when Buster Douglas beat Tyson?
The same thing that happened when Baldomir beat Zab. They all became the linear champions.

Floyd a cherry picker? Go down the list of the champions Floyd fought and when he fought them and get back to me. Was Floyd fighting Shane at the right time before the fight or now that he has dominated him? You say Floyd loss the first Castillo fight but said nothing about the immediate rematch which counters any of the Castillo BS anyone can come with. Shane destroyed the man your claiming Floyd ducked then Floyd dominated Shane right after. Manny has been fighting a string of fighters coming off HUGE losses since he's been at 130 all the way to now. ALL CHERRYPICKED FIGHTERS.