is floyd the greatest jr lightweight ever?

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  • Pogue69
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    #21
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    floyd is a great fighter, but every 130 lbser in history is a stretch considering that we couldn't even get floyd to fight freitas or casamayor at 130 lbs. that's not to say that floyd wouldn't win, but still floyd never cleaned out 130 lbs. floyd has never cleaned out any division ever.
    Freitas and Casamyor? They are on par with Diego Corrales as they all went life and death with each other. Floyd at 130lbs is on a different level.

    Anyway, I do not think he is the best 130lber ever as it is a very deep division with Arguello, Chavez...I would not argue if he was in the top 5, though.

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    • #1Assassin
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      #22
      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      floyd is a great fighter, but every 130 lbser in history is a stretch considering that we couldn't even get floyd to fight freitas or casamayor at 130 lbs. that's not to say that floyd wouldn't win, but still floyd never cleaned out 130 lbs. floyd has never cleaned out any division ever.
      no no no NO!

      look, im a WAY bigger casamayor fan than i am a mayweather fan. but the truth is casamayor and freitas didnt want to fight floyd. floyd called out all of the top guys at 130, back then before his ego was huge he made more than fair offers to all his potential oponents too. casamayor and freitas still wanted no part of him, not the other way around.

      corrales was the only guy willing to fight floyd and even though he lost badly he still deserves credit for that. back then floyd didnt generate huge money, he was just a hard ass fight with no real benefits, nobody wanted to fight him back then but corrales stepped up. major props.

      i acctually believe casamyor would stand a great chance at beating floyd, and freitas was a real beast too before corrales traumatized him.

      its funny how some ppl just assume that anytime a fight between floyd and someone else didnt happen its automaticly floyds fault. i even seen ppl say he ducked kostya tzyou lol. floyd calls him out and moves up in weight to fight him, kostya loses and retires and somehow floyd was ducking him

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        #23
        Originally posted by -EX-
        Freitas and Casamayor???

        Casamayor MAY be great but Freitas?
        Oddly enough, it is Freitas who holds a win over Casamayor.

        I'm aware that the decision was a bad one, but... Casamayor sure lost an awful lot of the early rounds to someone who apparently doesn't even belong in the same discussion as him.

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        • yeks
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          #24
          freitas was a beast at 130.. he has fast and heavy hands..

          that chico fight leaves a bad taste on any fans mouth but that's the time when he moved up in weight and already considered a hero in his hometown brazil.. i guess fame got into his head and he wants the easy way out of the fight..

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          • Check_hooks
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            #25
            Who has floyd beat at jr lightweight? If its anything like the list of ppl he ducked at welterweight it shouldnt mean much

            List of ppl floyd ducked at welterweight

            Paul Williams
            Margarito
            Cotto
            Pacquiao
            Vernon Forrest (r.i.p.)
            Tito Trinidad
            Winky Wright
            Ricardo Mayorga
            Fernando Vargas
            Joshua Clottey
            Andre Berto

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              #26
              Originally posted by #1Assassin
              no no no NO!

              look, im a WAY bigger casamayor fan than i am a mayweather fan. but the truth is casamayor and freitas didnt want to fight floyd. floyd called out all of the top guys at 130, back then before his ego was huge he made more than fair offers to all his potential oponents too. casamayor and freitas still wanted no part of him, not the other way around.

              corrales was the only guy willing to fight floyd and even though he lost badly he still deserves credit for that. back then floyd didnt generate huge money, he was just a hard ass fight with no real benefits, nobody wanted to fight him back then but corrales stepped up. major props.

              i acctually believe casamyor would stand a great chance at beating floyd, and freitas was a real beast too before corrales traumatized him.

              its funny how some ppl just assume that anytime a fight between floyd and someone else didnt happen its automaticly floyds fault. i even seen ppl say he ducked kostya tzyou lol. floyd calls him out and moves up in weight to fight him, kostya loses and retires and somehow floyd was ducking him


              after that Corrales beat down their wasn't a fighter on the planet at 130 or below who wanted any piece of Mayweather.....and that's the god's honest truth!!!!

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                #27
                Originally posted by Check_hooks
                Who has floyd beat at jr lightweight? If its anything like the list of ppl he ducked at welterweight it shouldnt mean much

                List of ppl floyd ducked at welterweight

                Paul Williams
                Margarito
                Cotto
                Pacquiao
                Vernon Forrest (r.i.p.)
                Tito Trinidad
                Winky Wright
                Ricardo Mayorga
                Fernando Vargas

                Joshua Clottey
                Andre Berto


                Correct me if i'm wrong but weren't the majority of these guys at 54

                Also curious what constitutes a duck these days? If you could lay out a case as to how, why and importantly WHEN Mayweather ducked Berto for example i would be mighty appreciative

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                • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                  #28
                  1. Mayweather

                  2. Alexis

                  3. Nelson

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                  • check hook
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings
                    1. Mayweather

                    2. Alexis

                    3. Nelson


                    love that quote from reed....i still when i read it

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                    • qwerty07
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                      #30
                      Easily.


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