is floyd the greatest jr lightweight ever?

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  • Fox McCloud
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    #31
    Originally posted by check hook
    Correct me if i'm wrong but weren't the majority of these guys at 54

    Also curious what constitutes a duck these days? If you could lay out a case as to how, why and importantly WHEN Mayweather ducked Berto for example i would be mighty appreciative
    What are you saying? Don't you remember Winky Wright and Fernando Vargas's legendary campaigns at 147?

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      #32
      Without a doubt. Noone at 130 would have beaten Floyd. Floyd wanted to fight the winner of Frietas-Casamayor after he dominated Corrales and what happened...........Frietas ducked him.

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        #33
        Originally posted by SkillspayBills
        Without a doubt. Noone at 130 would have beaten Floyd. Floyd wanted to fight the winner of Frietas-Casamayor after he dominated Corrales and what happened...........Frietas ducked him.
        I thought both of those fights didn't come off because of money...

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          #34
          Originally posted by DWiens421
          I thought both of those fights didn't come off because of money...
          Yeah...........money. After Floyd dominated Corrales he immediately became a risk vs reward type of fighter. Not many fighters wanted to take him on after that bout.

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            #35
            Originally posted by SkillspayBills
            Yeah...........money. After Floyd dominated Corrales he immediately became a risk vs reward type of fighter. Not many fighters wanted to take him on after that bout.
            That's fair... I never really consider that ducking.

            Things do have to make financial sense, and the nice thing about boxing, is that a world beating prospect with no name can get a mandatory shot, wreck a champion and become established, and start to generate money.

            It is too bad that neither of those fights came off... those would be pretty good feathers in his cap if those were on his resume.

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              #36
              Originally posted by SkillspayBills
              Without a doubt. Noone at 130 would have beaten Floyd. Floyd wanted to fight the winner of Frietas-Casamayor after he dominated Corrales and what happened...........Frietas ducked him.
              Wasn't it impossible to make that fight since Freitas was a Showtime fighter and Floyd an HBO fighter?

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                #37
                Originally posted by Check_hooks
                Who has floyd beat at jr lightweight? If its anything like the list of ppl he ducked at welterweight it shouldnt mean much

                List of ppl floyd ducked at welterweight

                Paul Williams
                Margarito
                Cotto
                Pacquiao
                Vernon Forrest (r.i.p.)
                Tito Trinidad
                Winky Wright
                Ricardo Mayorga
                Fernando Vargas
                Joshua Clottey
                Andre Berto
                They let anybody get an account here.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
                  They let anybody get an account here.
                  Dude was just naming names for the sake of naming them.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Check_hooks
                    Who has floyd beat at jr lightweight? If its anything like the list of ppl he ducked at welterweight it shouldnt mean much
                    When Floyd was getting started, Genaro Hernandez was the #1 fighter at 130. Mayweather dominated Genaro Hernandez. The next highest ranked fighter was Angel Manfredy. Floyd dominated Angel Manfredy. A little while later Diego Corrales became #1 at 130. Floyd dominated Diego Corrales as well. So that is 3 times that Mayweather won dominating victories over the #1 ranked opponent at 130. He also beat titlists Jesus Chavez, Carlos Hernandez, and Gregorio Vargas.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by trk
                      When Floyd was getting started, Genaro Hernandez was the #1 fighter at 130. Mayweather dominated Genaro Hernandez. The next highest ranked fighter was Angel Manfredy. Floyd dominated Angel Manfredy. A little while later Diego Corrales became #1 at 130. Floyd dominated Diego Corrales as well. So that is 3 times that Mayweather won dominating victories over the #1 ranked opponent at 130. He also beat titlists Jesus Chavez, Carlos Hernandez, and Gregorio Vargas.
                      ......Nice

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