is floyd the greatest jr lightweight ever?

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  • Doctor_Tenma
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    #11
    Originally posted by PED User
    Camacho would be a handful for Floyd H2H at 130 and 135 (I pick Floyd by close decision), but in terms of "greatest" at 130, which includes achievements and opposition, I don't think Camacho is all that high like a Mayweather, Nelson, Arguello, or Chavez.
    I agree 100%. Camacho had some really quick hands.

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      #12
      Originally posted by -Top Rank-
      I said it before but to be the best fighter at 130 holds about as much weight as being the best at 154, 168 and cruiserweight. Can anyone even name 5 ATG from this class....cuz I sure as hell can't. You start with guys like Arguello and Nelson and then the list goes south in a hurry.
      I wouldn't put cruiserweight and 168 in the same category as 130 and 154.

      130 and 154 have been around longer. 130 has had guys champs/title-holders like Kid Chocolate, Sandy Saddler, Arguello, J.C. Chavez, Nelson, Mayweather.

      168 and CW came around in the 80s, and CW is usually just a pit stop for guys to go to HW anyway.

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      • jrosales13
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        #13
        I have him in my top 3.

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        • The Gambler1981
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          #14
          To me him and Arguelo are 1 and 2, Chavez did pretty well also but I think those two did better work and most of JCC memorable work came after 130. Between Arguelo and Floyd it depnds on what you like, if you are looking at quality of wins Arguelo would probably edge it if you are looking at dominence and overall ability think Floyd comes out on top, tough to fault anyone going either way or even the odd Chavez horning in.

          130 is a pretty deep division with a lot of history, it ain't 135 or 147 but it ain't 168 either~

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          • infamous larryx
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            #15
            floyd beat hernendez,manfredy and corrales at 130 and had several title defenses..he had a great run at 130

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            • The_Demon
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              #16
              Arguello
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              • Bengali Boxer
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                in terms of abilty and for the skill level of fighters who fought at that weight class he is the best but u need to stay champion and have loads of defenses for years to be the best ever in a weight class like duran did at lightweight and like joe louis did at heavyweight

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Bengali Boxer
                  in terms of abilty and for the skill level of fighters who fought at that weight class he is the best but u need to stay champion and have loads of defenses for years to be the best ever in a weight class like duran did at lightweight and like joe louis did at heavyweight
                  130 hasn't had that many long-reigning champs.

                  Floyd Mayweather: 8 title defenses
                  Genaro Hernandez: 8 title defenses (1st reign), 3 title defenses (2nd reign)
                  Azumah Nelson: 10 title defenses (1st reign, 2 of them being draws), 1 title defense (2nd reign)
                  Julio Cesar Chavez: 9 title defenses
                  Alexis Arguello: 8 title defenses
                  Sammy Serrano: 10 title defenses (1st reign), 3 title defenses (2nd reign)

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                  • The Gambler1981
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by PED User
                    130 hasn't had that many long-reigning champs.

                    Floyd Mayweather: 8 title defenses
                    Genaro Hernandez: 8 title defenses (1st reign), 3 title defenses (2nd reign)
                    Azumah Nelson: 10 title defenses (1st reign, 2 of them being draws), 1 title defense (2nd reign)
                    Julio Cesar Chavez: 9 title defenses
                    Alexis Arguello: 8 title defenses
                    Sammy Serrano: 10 title defenses (1st reign), 3 title defenses (2nd reign)
                    If you dominate 130 it looks like your chances are good of having a fine career

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                    • Kagami Taiga
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                      130 is an important division because it seems to be a measuring stick that determines what you can exect from fighters who dominate there and go on to other divisions. with that said floyd is either one or 2 behind arguello, even tho i think hed beat arguello at 130, arguello fought stiffer comp. also at the top would have to be the great ghanian champ nelson.

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