No one in the HISTORY of 130 lbs could beat Floyd Mayweather

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unless you are a legit boxing historian or you've seen every 130 lbs fight since the division was created, no one can take this thread seriously.

no one can take you seriously and no one does, you are the biggest mayweather haters here who keeps trolling, just dont commit suicide after he spanks pacquiao's one dimensional ass.

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Julio Cesar Chavez?

chavez wouldnt even beat him 140 or 147, so i dont see how he could touch floyd at 130 where he was a beast. chavez was green at 130 lbs and struggled with juan la porte...barely beat him

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considering the trouble Mayweather had with Castillo, I think Chavez would have given him hell at 130lbs.

Hector Camacho, while not known as an ATG there, was unbelievably fast and talented at the weight. Mayweather sort of has problems with quick southpaws, and Camacho was the fastest I think Ive ever seen.

Azumah Nelson was a very good fighter, who gave Pernell quite a tough time...and that was a Pernell that was forced to throw over a thousand punches to keep him off.(unless Im mistaken)

Alexis Arguello, although I think Mayweather had the style to beat him, was certainly no pushover and could change a fight quickly with his pinpoint punching power and body work.

You could technically put Duran against Mayweather at 130lbs since Duran beat a future titleholder at the weight, but imo Duran was far too inexperienced at that point to deal with a prime 130lb Mayweather, so thats not really fair.

Agree with this. Camacho would give Mayweather problems with his speed and southpaw stance, but ultimately I pick Mayweather to win a close decision as I feel he has the edge in intangibles and would make the proper adjustments. Arguello would be dangerous all the way through but Mayweather wins a decision there. I give Chavez a better chance at beating Mayweather. And of course, there's Henry Armstrong as well.

I haven't seen enough of guys like Flash Elorde, Kid Chocolate, and Sandy Saddler to really make a judgement on whom I think wins those bouts.

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no one can take you seriously and no one does, you are the biggest mayweather haters here who keeps trolling, just dont commit suicide after he spanks pacquiao's one dimensional ass.

wtf? my comment isn't even an attack at you personally. a lot of people on these boards (including myself) aren't qualified to make the kind of claim you attempted to make in the first post.

wtf got you butt hurt?

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castillo already did. or was that at 135??

Match was at 130.

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I agree.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the best super featherweight of all time. Arguello is a close second.

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He is top 3 down to personal opinion which way the top 3 looks. I dont think chavez stands a chance, floyd would box chavez into submission unlike taylor floyd at 130 had power in his hands, chavez wouldnt be able to break floyd down like he did taylor floyd would just stay on the outside and box him all night. If taylor had just boxed the full 12 instead of trading shots in the later rounds he would of won easily.

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Do you think any of these fighters beat Floyd at 130 lbs? please be honest...im not saying he is unbeatable but i just want you to be as honest as you can about this.

neither you or I KNOW who would win against who...but I think the people I mentioned have a strong chance, especially Chavez and Camacho. Arguello, although an outstanding fighter, was just at a style disadvntage against Floyd imo, and probably would have lost although I wouldnt count him out. Azumah might overwhelm Floyd...I mean, the guy came on strong as hell, without getting hit that much. Think of Jesus Chavez vs Floyd, except with a much better Jesus Chavez who wouldnt be eating uppercuts constantly. Azumah has a fair chance, but overall I would probably favor Floyd.

People who keep bringing the castillo fight up yet ignore the facts, and the facts were that it was floyds first proper fight at lightweight and he went from jesus chavez at 130 pounds to castillo at 135 who was the lightweight champion of the world and a big lightweight who outweighed floyd, in his first proper lightweight bout he fought the champion even though floyd had an injury and literally fought with one arm through out the whole fight! The rematch proved it, when floyd won clearly, plus this is about 130 pounds.

sure, Floyd won the second fight...but you surely cant say he had an easy fight. Floyds two fights against Castillo are probably his hardest fighters of his career. Castillo was simply a bad style matchup for him, plain and simple. I dont think Floyd was any smaller than Castillo...Ive heard that he was having trouble making 130lbs too, although I cant say for sure.

not to mention that he fought Emmaneul Augustus/Burton at the time at Lightweight before the Castillo fight, and Im pretty sure he was thinking of making the move to 135lbs because(possibly) it was getting hard for him to make the weight.

besides, although I respect the hell out of Castillo, he was a step below Chavez. apart from the fact that Castillo was Chavez's sparring partner, Chavez would not have had close fights with Stevie Johnston(although hes fairly underrated himself) and would have probably TKOed Casamayor.

You have to calculate the circumstances properly. I dont see anyone beating floyd at 130 lbs, an injured floyd fighting at lightweight has nothing to do with how floyd would do anyone at super featherweight.

its funny if you think chavez would give him hell based on how chavez got a lucky win against meldrick taylor in the first fight, but we know meldrick taylor got hit quiet a lot and floyd is one of the best defensive fighters in the world, i dont know how many punches chavez would connect on floyd..also chavez struggled against juan laporte and rocky lodridge at super featherweight, two guys who arent in the class of mayweather.

Meldrick Taylor and Mayweather fight nothing alike. What people dont understand is that Chavez did NOT actually have problems with boxers, he actually had trouble with volume punchers. He ends up playing defense too much, and although he ends up doing more damage overall, he can be behind on points. Although Floyd had a higher workrate at 130lbs, the fact of the matter is he never averaged 100 punches a round in lightning fast combinations, and when it gets down to it, when he was matched up Castillo, his workrate was cut down considerably.

Chavez was green at super featherweight he wasnt as good as he was at 140, floyd was at his absolute best at super featherweight.


give me some NON-biased honest opinions, thanks.

Although I partially agree that Chavez was green at his early part of 130lbs, his absolute best imo was at 135lbs against Edwin Rosario, and he fought at 130lbs exactly 3 months before his fight with Rosario....so I think its fair to put that Rosario version of Chavez against Mayweather, right?

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He is top 3 down to personal opinion which way the top 3 looks. I dont think chavez stands a chance, floyd would box chavez into submission unlike taylor floyd at 130 had power in his hands, chavez wouldnt be able to break floyd down like he did taylor floyd would just stay on the outside and box him all night. If taylor had just boxed the full 12 instead of trading shots in the later rounds he would of won easily.

It wasn't just the end when Taylor stood and traded. He did it in spots throughout the fight, and a big reason why he was winning was because of his workrate. He was throwing a ****load of punches.

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Floyd is clearly in the top 3 greatest SFW of all time. But, it ****** to have this argument on who can beat Floyd if people have only been watching for the last few years.

To say that JCC didn't have a chance to beat Floyd is etremely idiotic.

I think it is safe to say that JCC at 130, even though he was not at his best at that weight was better than any opponent Floyd has fought. And, Floyd would of been the best opponent JCC fought at that weight.

And, both had the style to give the other one trouble.

I don't even know if he could of beaten every SFW of his own era let alone all time. A fight with Casamayor would of been interesting.

Then you add Arguello and Flash, two guys I have along with Floyd as the top 3 greatest SFW of all time.

Then you can go with Azumah Nelson, Saddler, Armstrong, Chocolate, And, you also have the very underrated Brian Mitchell who I have in the top 5 greatest 130 pounder of all time. And, Camacho speed could of made the fight interesting. And, lets not forget Camacho was an awesome fighter before he fought Edwin Rosario.

All those fights would of been great fights. I don't know if Floyd goes unbeaten against all of them.