Mayweather vs mosely, you guys didnt even notice

[The Gambler1981]

To be effective Mosley needed a jab, from the beginning I was skeptical that his jab was up to the task but if he was able to jab effectively the fight would have looked a lot different.

Being bigger and having a good jab is a good place to start with looking at guys who could beat Floyd.

[TriggerItch]

hes right you gotta have a job, but you have to have a good jab and DOUBLE THE JAB UP.You cant just throw 1 jab at floyd, thats where the pull counter comes in, one jab, pull back and hit, but if you double or even triple the jab, you got a chance.

yea, so where exactly is this jab getting you? the jab is helpful but it can be any punch just to get him in position for the real strike, but it's all still useless if your not swift on your feet

[Kagami Taiga]

the person u described as being able to beat floyd is manny. however, there is no evidence that manny's style is the right style to beat floyd. i really dnt think it is. he had a hard time with a counter puncher like jmm. i think floyd is all wrong for manny. he just doesnt have the ring intel. to adjust when he needs to...im tellin u, thats gonna be his downfall.

as far as a jab, it is important. very much so, but it doesnt necessarily spell victory if floyd finds a way to negate it, which he's more than capable of doin.

[Big F]

one can assume that a single jab does not catch out Mayweather. And even double jabs. Thing is, the jab can only be used to set up other shots, e.g. jab + body shots. Mayweather's opponents could not hope to catch him out or even hit him hard with just a single jab.

One thing I noticed during the Mosley fight was that Mosley let the left drop after extending it for the jab; this is one thing they teach you right at the beginning when you learn the ropes; pull the fist back to protect the face. This was one way Mayweather caught Mosley with counter-crosses; absolutely beautiful; and then weaved Mosley's return lead hook. Took Mosley back to school. Literally.

Manny may not need the jab with his footspeed, angles and combos but it would certainly help also him.

[GoogleMe]

The jab is the most efficient punch in the game. But there's just so many boxer who haven't learned the basics yet.

[cixthree]

Your lack of comprehension is staggering.
When did i say i want to mimic Jones?
When has Wlad fought someone that utilizes the shoulder roll?

Look. All im sayin is pac has very fast feet, and if your moving while throwing your punches that's a good way of neutralizing the counter rights those shoulder rollers love to use, it's also a good way to catch them as they turn away.
Go watch Jones-Toney again, it's all right there, when Toney leans away Jones follows his head and toney is forced to lean further leaving him unbalanced as Jones flurries away.

Floyd won't be using the shoulder roll, have you ever seen Floyd fight a southpaw with the shoulder roll?
He'll be using a standard high guard. The shoulder roll can't defend against the straight left, but in certain sitiations it can get him out of trouble.

But movement is key, and Pac has a lot of it. But the way to dictate movement is with a jab, and Floyd has that. Foot speed is also a key, but Floyd not only has foot speed he has a nack for dictating where he fights in the ring. He dictates which direction you move, if he finds a flaw in your direction he'll make you go that way all night and pick you apart.

If you notice, guys don't always get off on Floyd. You see guys ready to throw then stop, that's because he gives you a false look, takes it away and pops you while you look.

Pac fights in a certain rythem, Floyd feeds off rythem. Manyy needs distance to get off, Floyd is a master at closing distance and pocket fighting. Shoulder to Pacs chest, Pac needs room so he has to step back POP POP 2 shots by Floyd then move out of range...

Pac will have to corner Floyd, make him stand and fight to have that punchers chance. But when have we see Floyd fight another mans fight and not his own?

[TriggerItch]

Floyd won't be using the shoulder roll, have you ever seen Floyd fight a southpaw with the shoulder roll?
He'll be using a standard high guard. The shoulder roll can't defend against the straight left, but in certain sitiations it can get him out of trouble.

But movement is key, and Pac has a lot of it. But the way to dictate movement is with a jab, and Floyd has that. Foot speed is also a key, but Floyd not only has foot speed he has a nack for dictating where he fights in the ring. He dictates which direction you move, if he finds a flaw in your direction he'll make you go that way all night and pick you apart.

If you notice, guys don't always get off on Floyd. You see guys ready to throw then stop, that's because he gives you a false look, takes it away and pops you while you look.

Pac fights in a certain rythem, Floyd feeds off rythem. Manyy needs distance to get off, Floyd is a master at closing distance and pocket fighting. Shoulder to Pacs chest, Pac needs room so he has to step back POP POP 2 shots by Floyd then move out of range...

Pac will have to corner Floyd, make him stand and fight to have that punchers chance. But when have we see Floyd fight another mans fight and not his own?

Yea, you're right about the high guard, but he still sort of rolls whilst holding the guard.
The reason i dont think the jab will be important in this fight is because it never really is between an orthodox fighter and a southpaw.
What Manny needs is the looping right hook to direct floyd to a meeting with his straight left which will be there all night for manny if he can stay inside Floyds left foot.

[Zn1]

hate floyd, love pac, but mayweather ko in 6 imo
pacs gonna be so easy to hit and i doubt he will hurt floyd at all.

[Vito Corleone]

At 2:07 of round 8 mayweather was saying to shane:
''USE the JAB, USE the ****ing JAB. ''

but mosely didnt have a jab.
Neither does pacman. Pacman learned the checkhook, but that wont work, only if mayweather decides to go full philly shell defense. But he wont.

You are SOOOOOO late with this.

[Vito Corleone]

At 2:07 of round 8 mayweather was saying to shane:
''USE the JAB, USE the ****ing JAB. ''

but mosely didnt have a jab.
Neither does pacman. Pacman learned the checkhook, but that wont work, only if mayweather decides to go full philly shell defense. But he wont.

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