Why Aren't The Klitschko Brothers On The Ring's Pound For Pound List?

[jrosales13]

key word.... they just don't win, its not even close.

Thats talent.

Michael Grant, Lance Whitaker, Valuev and even Lennox Lewis didn't dominate fighters like they do.

So you can shove that "they're bigger" excuse straight up your collective asses.

Sure they have more skills and are better fighters than Grant and Lance. But, that still doesn't mean that they don't win cuz of size advantage.

I don't think they would "dominate" their opponents if everything was equal

And, can you say that Lennox fought in a tougher era and beat better fighters? I mean he did beat Vitaly right? And, I still never considered Lennox an elite P4P fighter.

[Guest]

But, will they be winning if they were the same height, same reach, same weight, same size as their opponent?

That what P4P means.

The only reason why I would favor Wlad to beat Haye would be cuz of the size advantage that Wlad has. But, if everything was equal in terms of size (height, reach, weight, etc) I would favor Haye to beat them.

I would favor Calderon, Moreno, even Poonsawat to beat them. If everything was equal.

That is the true definition of P4P.

Eh, you're playing god here Jrose, or a mad **** scientist.

[steeluv]

In comparison to FMJ they have 0.0000001% of speed and 0.01 % of skill of Floyd does that merit pound for pound list? compared to tyson ali lewis they all beat class opposition and had way better skills

[Jim Jeffries]

Someone like Ray Austin became a contender because of his size, 6'6", 250 lbs. Definitely NOT a consideration for p4p ever. But someone like Wlad, who beat him in under two rounds without throwing a single right hand, should be considered.

But I'm fine with them not being on there. Lennox only barely cracked the top 10 and that was after beating Holyfield, who was up there.

[BillyBoxing]

You Klits dudes are ****ing worse than Al Sharpton.

I dont know for Klits.
But believe me you are great Pound for Troll material Burny.
BS Top 5 easy.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Are the Klitschko brothers not among the 10 most dominant champions in the sport?

The excuses people usually give is that heavyweights can't make these lists. Lennox Lewis, Rid**** Bowe, Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield were all on the ring's list at one stage or another.

What's the real reason?

because they are not american, black, arrogant, & claim to be the greatest.


what i find hilarious is none of the klitskchos have ever graced the top 10 p4p but kelly pavlik & nonito donaire were as high as top 5 p4p.


that is a travesty.

[BillyBoxing]

Someone like Ray Austin became a contender because of his size, 6'6", 250 lbs. Definitely NOT a consideration for p4p ever. But someone like Wlad, who beat him in under two rounds without throwing a single right hand, should be considered.

But I'm fine with them not being on there. Lennox only barely cracked the top 10 and that was after beating Holyfield, who was up there.

Lewis was even more underrated.

Bowe for exemple was full of ****,get retired by Golota and was more respected altough Lewis handled Bowe in 1 round a the OG.

[jrosales13]

Eh, you're playing god here Jrose, or a mad **** scientist.

But, that is the true meaning of P4P.

If everything was equal and just skill for skill style for style who wins? That is the meaning. In the true meaning I don't see them in the top 10.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

because they are not american, black, arrogant, & claim to be the greatest.


what i find hilarious is none of the klitskchos have ever graced the top 10 p4p but kelly pavlik & nonito donaire were as high as top 5 p4p.


that is a travesty.

So wait Pavlik and Donaire are "black, arrogant and claim to be the greatest"?

What about Hatton?

No.

Okayyyy

How about Marquez?

[deadbeat hero]

As much as I rate them, I've never considered the Klitschkos to be p4p material. I actually have both Haye and Adamek above them on my list.