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  • Hitman932
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    #281
    Originally posted by TheGreatA
    I just don't think Haye or Povetkin have the confidence, or have atleast been advised not to fight them as of yet. It's a big step to go from fighting Eddie Chambers, Chris Byrd and Jason Estrada to fighting Wladimir Klitschko. Those three fighters, although respectable, in no way have prepared Povetkin for anything he'll have to deal with if he fights Wladimir. Haye beat Valuev and Ruiz, but Valuev's terrible and Haye barely got by him, Ruiz is old and plodded forward while taking Haye's best. If he demolishes Chagaev, maybe then.

    It's a valid point but at the same time, using your rationale, Haye nor Povetkin will ever be ready for Klitschko and the ducking will be perpetually justified.

    There is nobody out there to fight to prepare for a Klitschko, the gap between them and everyone else is much too great.

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    • Chunk..
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      #282
      Originally posted by Hitman932
      The ducking of Wlad by the top heavyweights is unprecedented as far as I can tell.

      There are two guys who might arguably deserve to share a ring with Wlad and both of them are absolutely terrified about the possibility.

      Even a young George Foreman, who was basically killing people in the ring, had no trouble getting the top heavyweights to fight him.

      Or Mike Tyson, the baddest man on the planet, he had no trouble getting not 1, not 2, but 3 champions to fight him in the span of 9 months on his way to unifying titles.
      Fighters back in the day actually had the balls to get in the ring with those guys mentioned.

      Today's Heavyweights have a **** between there legs.

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      • Boxing Scene
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        #283
        Originally posted by Calilloyd
        Don't compare Foreman's opponents to Wladimir's.
        Foreman fought a string of nobodies on his comeback trail, so you can actually compare it. Also, I met a mexican boxer in a bar out at LAX (didn't want me to say his name anywhere), and he says he was offered 100k to fight Foreman in his comeback and throw the fight, a direct offer from Don King. I looked him up, and he was for real, he was a real dude and offered the fight and turned it down.

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        • TheGreatA
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          #284
          Originally posted by Hitman932
          It's a valid point but at the same time, using your rationale, Haye nor Povetkin will ever be ready for Klitschko and the ducking will be perpetually justified.

          There is nobody out there to fight to prepare for a Klitschko, the gap between them and everyone else is much too great.
          Agreed, which is what I said in an earlier post today. Chambers took on Dimitrenko and Peter, fights which atleast somewhat prepared him for Klitschko as Dimitrenko had the height and Peter the clubbing power, but then neither of those fighters had the skills of a Klitschko. But he gave himself the best possible chance and was prepared to face height disadvantages and to take a good punch, he just couldn't get at Wladimir whose skills were far superior to what Chambers had faced against other opponents.

          Right now I think both Haye and Povetkin would be outmatched if they were to face Wladimir, with Haye having a minor puncher's chance, Povetkin probably not even that as he's not a big puncher.

          I don't really mind seeing these potential fights build up a little but what else is there for the Klitschko brothers? Second raters like Albert Sosnowski? I think that's what they'll have to "feast" on for a while until either Povetkin or Haye come up with a "breakthrough" performance that'll boost their confidence.

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            #285
            Originally posted by braddman
            Foreman fought a string of nobodies on his comeback trail, so you can actually compare it. Also, I met a mexican boxer in a bar out at LAX (didn't want me to say his name anywhere), and he says he was offered 100k to fight Foreman in his comeback and throw the fight, a direct offer from Don King. I looked him up, and he was for real, he was a real dude and offered the fight and turned it down.
            nvm, just saw the part about his name

            crazy stuff though. you know that sort of thing happens but when you hear a story about it you just get a bad taste in your mouth

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            • dblaze9
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              #286
              I am SHOCKED that a Klitschko would opt out of a test considering everyone knows they were on steroids in the past...Here is the video below...

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                #287
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                Originally posted by braddman
                Foreman fought a string of nobodies on his comeback trail, so you can actually compare it. Also, I met a mexican boxer in a bar out at LAX (didn't want me to say his name anywhere), and he says he was offered 100k to fight Foreman in his comeback and throw the fight, a direct offer from Don King. I looked him up, and he was for real, he was a real dude and offered the fight and turned it down.
                He said young Foreman and it is not comparable. When you find any great or hall of fame heavyweights on Wladimers resume like Foreman has let me know.

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                • Calilloyd
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                  #288
                  Originally posted by Hitman932
                  Don't respond to my posts if you are too ******ed to identify the point.
                  You're right that I don't identify with ******ity.
                  Your comments are one of the reasons the Klitschkos don't always get the credit they deserve. You overrate them in a childish and ignorant way.

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                  • Hitman932
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                    #289
                    Originally posted by Calilloyd
                    You're right that I don't identify with ******ity.
                    Your comments are one of the reasons the Klitschkos don't always get the credit they deserve. You overrate them in a childish and ignorant way.
                    How the hell were my comments overrating them?

                    I was pointing out that young Foreman (and Tyson) were better than Wlad, and more intimidating than Wlad, and gave people way more reasons to duck them than Wlad, and asking why people duck Wlad when he is nothing like a young Foreman or Tyson.

                    If you could form or understand a coherent thought you would have figured it out.

                    Somehow me talking about Klitschko not being worthy of being ducked lead you to believe I was saying he had a better resume than George Foreman, or something like that?

                    I don't even know what the **** you are talking about because it is so ****** and so completely irrelevant and unrelated to my post.

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                      #290
                      more bitching in the forum, i see.

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