Comments Thread For: Klitschko Will Not Accept Povetkin's Drug Test Demands

[damned1974]

What good comes from agreeing? will they sell more tickets? make more money? Oh they will bend to a contender and do what he says

There is more to gain than to lose by accepting testing. It will restore faith from fans of boxing and clear your name of subtle accusations.It cements your honesty and legitimizes you.

Contrast that to what most people think and feel with refusal and there is a major gap in perception from acceptance to denial.

[Russian Crushin]

I lived in the States for 27 years.I have had immediate family that were police officers and have known lawyers, just to let you know.
Innocent until proven guilty is an idealistic slogan at best over there.If you have the means,it can still just be a possibility.

Australian law is extremely similar to American law,except for some laws with driving,etc...in fact,over here we have adopted American policies in quite a few facets of industries ranging from insurance (compensation claims, percentage/scale damage) to hospitality industries (HACCP)...

Yea but thats the how the system works, prosecutors have to prove the defendent guilty, do they not? A suspect is not convicted of a crime and then has to prove his innocence does he? otherwise a confession would be all that is needed. But even with a confession, a prosectutor has to prove the suspect guilty with the evidnce he has. Even with a confession a suspect can be proven not guilty

We are talking court action here

BTW i would love to go to Austrailia and stay there

[Russian Crushin]

There is more to gain than to lose by accepting testing. It will restore faith from fans of boxing and clear your name of subtle accusations.It cements your honesty and legitimizes you.

Contrast that to what most people think and feel with refusal and there is a major gap in perception from acceptance to denial.

He wont lose anthing from this, his fans will stay and still pay to see him.

It only legitimizes you for a 2 month period and thats it, they will not be tested during the off season or in any fight after that

[Filipino Floyd]

It sounds like everyone is saying that Povetkin is in no position because he isn't the champ and the fight is for the belt. Well what if Povetkin comes out tomorrow and says that he doesn't want to fight for the belt but he still wants the USADA testing? Would that change peoples opinions? The bottom line is that any testing demand outside of the commission rules are bull****. Champ or not, no fighter should have to take a test outside of the what's being regulated. Anybody who criticizes the fighter for it, needs to grow up.

[Russian Crushin]

It sounds like everyone is saying that Povetkin is in no position because he isn't the champ and the fight is for the belt. Well what if Povetkin comes out tomorrow and says that he doesn't want to fight for the belt but he still wants the USADA testing? Would that change peoples opinions? The bottom line is that any testing demand outside of the commission rules are bull****. Champ or not, no fighter should have to take a test outside of the what's being regulated. Anybody who criticizes the fighter for it, needs to grow up.

In that case im sure Wlad would pick another opponent, Povetkin is not his best opposition

[damned1974]

Yea but thats the how the system works, prosecutors have to prove the defendent guilty, do they not? A suspect is not convicted of a crime and then has to prove his innocence does he? otherwise a confession would be all that is needed. But even with a confession, a prosectutor has to prove the suspect guilty with the evidnce he has. Even with a confession a suspect can be proven not guilty

We are talking court action here

BTW i would love to go to Austrailia and stay there

Well,as far as court action-you could still be held in a cell. Like I said-it wouldn't be a reward for supposedly being innocent of a crime.The loss of freedom waiting in jail until you are proven innocent is less than stellar.

Australia is pretty cool.I have lived here for around 10 years.Though it is not a perfect country,it has a lot of good things about it.It is a safe place with a good sense of general community about it.

[archermac X]

Arum is a SOB who had a history (not recently, though) of making-up stories at times to suit his agenda. But he said this matter-of-factly to the media when he questioned why Pacquiao should undergo Olympic-style USADA testing (when the Team USA did not) during the failed negotiations for Pacquiao-Mayweather. That no one among the media (anyone here knows of one?) so much as raised a dissenting opinion to Arum's statement (there was not a single article on the internet discussing that one when it was a very serious accusation), tells us that he was telling the truth. Hell, not even that a**hole Travis Tygart of USADA-who were supposed to conduct the tests- said anything to contradict Arum's claim. Obviously, what Arum said was true.

It's quite clear that no one in the American media would be willing to discuss it because it would expose to the whole world that while other athletes were subjected to random drug-testing, the NBA superstars who won the gold were not subjected to the same testing. That remark was even part of an article here in Boxingscene, and Arum said TEAM USA WAS NOT BLOOD-TESTED EVEN ONCE so you can't dismiss it as just an irresponsible remark by Arum.

For anyone who would still question the likelihood of it being true, do you think Lebron James and Kobe Bryant would approve of the idea of the USADA barging into their mansions at any time to conduct the drug tests? Do you think they would provide USADA all particulars of their activities and schedules so USADA could come in anytime? Do you think USADA would do anything that would interfere with their training and jeopardize their winning the gold?

Arum openly questioned the credibility of USADA to implement these tests on Pacquiao, yet USADA kept mum on the issue. Obvious....

[damned1974]

He wont lose anthing from this, his fans will stay and still pay to see him.

It only legitimizes you for a 2 month period and thats it, they will not be tested during the off season or in any fight after that

Beyond that-if you have taken OST,in most casual people's minds,they will not be scrutinized in the future....I myself don't feel Wlad is on PED's,but who knows.Everyone is equal and just because someone is a "champ",doesn't eliminate any possibility.

[baracuda]

povetkin joins the "***** club" ..........

[Russian Crushin]

Well,as far as court action-you could still be held in a cell. Like I said-it wouldn't be a reward for supposedly being innocent of a crime.The loss of freedom waiting in jail until you are proven innocent is less than stellar.

Australia is pretty cool.I have lived here for around 10 years.Though it is not a perfect country,it has a lot of good things about it.It is a safe place with a good sense of general community about it.

You arent put through the court system in that case. That has to be done because what if they detain a real murder? they need to keep him detained until they charge him. Its a small price the innocent have to pay to make sure the real criminals are caught....you can only be proven guilty or innocent infront of a jury or judge.

I just wanna get away from NY and exprience a different type of country. Im sure ill be there one day, just to visit if not to live