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  • Russian Crushin
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    #111
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
    That's why I said championship fights. The scheme is obviously expensive but everybody has an interest in it being performed.

    If combined with a whereabout scheme for all ranked fighters and a commital by all ranked fighters to being subject to a test at any given time boxing has come a long way.
    It would be nice but wont happen, only time a fighter should demand this is if the other fighter had tested positive before or has some strong evidence against him


    Like Shane Mosleys opponents should have asked him for a test, that i totally agree on

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    • damned1974
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      #112
      Originally posted by yevskiy426
      NO they have to prove you guilty.....when you are takin in you are detained until you are charged with the crime. A "hunch" has to have credibilty to it.
      No they do not have to PROVE guilt to set you in a cell! You can be put in a cell without enough truth to set you free....btw,it always helps when you cooperate with the authorities and give them enough proof/ evidence in the first place....

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      • Filipino Floyd
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        #113
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson
        According to Victor Conte the drugs have left the system within 24 hours. This means that scheduled testing is worthless. It most be random or don't bother.
        If the drugs leave the system within the 24 hours then the commission's standard testing right after the fight would be more than sufficient. If a drug is out of your system then what kind of effect will it have for you?

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        • Russian Crushin
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          #114
          Originally posted by archermac X
          Funny how everybody is lauding Floyd and Mosley for undergoing random USADA testing, to ensure that none among them is using PED's. Then comes the revelation that they were last tested 18 and 19 days, respectively, before the fight. If they had both consented to being tested up to the day of the fight, why didn't USADA test them much closer to the fight to completely remove any doubts that any one of them are on something? ONLY FOOLS CAN'T SEE THAT WHILE BOTH FLOYD AND MOSLEY HAVE CONSENTED TO UNLIMITED TESTING, THEY ALREADY HAD AN 18-DAY CUTOFF PERIOD IN PLACE. Go ahead, tell me just one valid reason why they were not tested maybe even 5 days before the fight. Oh, .... what? OK, i get it, USADA was sure they would not juice that close to the fight. LMAO. USADA must think you all are idiots to believe that.

          Yet, when Pacquiao now agrees to the 14-day cutoff put forth by Floyd in the failed negotiations, these idiots would say that is not good enough, Pacquiao should agree to being tested until the day of the fight. That Travis Tygart a**hole even had the temerity to say that Pacquiao's offer is not good enough because it would not be unlimited testing. Apparently what is good for the DUCK(er) is not good for the gander.
          i have a good question, why instead of the urine test given a couple of days before the fight, wasnt a blood test given? i mean since blood is suppose to capture everything? And why did both Mosley and May have the same cutoff?

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            #115
            Originally posted by yevskiy426
            It would be nice but wont happen, only time a fighter should demand this is if the other fighter had tested positive before or has some strong evidence against him


            Like Shane Mosleys opponents should have asked him for a test, that i totally agree on
            Disagree completely. Drugs are so efficient today that it's only a precious few (******) athletes that get caught in todays scheduled testing.

            So in essense everybody is a suspect.

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              #116
              Originally posted by Filipino Floyd
              If the drugs leave the system within the 24 hours then the commission's standard testing right after the fight would be more than sufficient. If a drug is out of your system then what kind of effect will it have for you?
              Because the drugs are not used in the fight itself, but in the training.

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              • Eastbay Giant
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                #117
                It's funny, how foreign fighters are the only fighters rejecting the OST. Yet, look @ guys like Mayweather, Mosley, Berto, Bradley, Ward, and Green who have no problem stating they'll take the test.

                Just sayin...


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                  #118
                  Originally posted by damned1974
                  No they do not have to PROVE guilt to set you in a cell! You can be put in a cell without enough truth to set you free....btw,it always helps when you cooperate with the authorities and give them enough proof/ evidence in the first place....
                  In that case your being detained until enough evidence can be put toghter to charge you, if there isnt evidence you get realised....but your not convicted in that case, i mean they cant put a jury at a crime scene to decide guilt.

                  Your talking about a situation were a person accuses another person of a crime. In that case the cop decides if the accuser given him enough evidense to take the suspect in.....Plus the "hunch" is for an officer to search a person or pull them over, not a hunch from a civilion

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                  • damned1974
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by MrWestGrand
                    It's funny, how foreign fighters are the only fighters rejecting the OST. Yet, look @ guys like Mayweather, Mosley, Berto, Bradley, Ward, and Green who have no problem stating they'll take the test.

                    Just sayin...


                    Actually-I believe Sauerland promotion's fighters do OST...
                    Foreign? To what? We are on the net-not everyone is in America.

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                    • Russian Crushin
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by MrWestGrand
                      It's funny, how foreign fighters are the only fighters rejecting the OST. Yet, look @ guys like Mayweather, Mosley, Berto, Bradley, Ward, and Green who have no problem stating they'll take the test.

                      Just sayin...


                      Berto=haiten

                      and i havent seen them take 1 single test, all they did was state that they will take it, only against mayweather

                      they arent saying they want it, they are saying if a fight comes up with the Cash cow, they will take it

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