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  • boxingking500
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    #21
    Originally posted by cupocity303
    Yeah it was Terminator Salvation-esque, like a surprise, "wow Wlad at # 3?", when it makes perfect sense in my view. When's the last time he even lost a round, yet alone a fight.
    yeah i think thats funny......... when people say "wlad is not #3"

    whens the last time the dude lost a round, for a long freakin time, i can tell you that

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    • cupocity303
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      #22
      Originally posted by craigus1990
      Good Video but next time why dont you do it starting with 10 down to 1? i dont get why it starts at 1... it should be a countdown to 1
      You're right and I considered that, but I thought i'd get the most obvious (Mayweather & Pacquiao or Pacquiao & Mayweather, whichever order you prefer, there is no right and wrong) out of the way first and then get to the suprises, starting with Wlad.

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        #23
        fair enough yh, asides from tht its a great vid and a reasonably solid list.

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        • cupocity303
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          #24
          Originally posted by boxingking500
          yeah i think thats funny......... when people say "wlad is not #3"

          whens the last time the dude lost a round, for a long freakin time, i can tell you that
          Vitali could've been in there two but I then I thought, most people traditionally don't even put heavyweights in their list but if i'm gonna do it, i'll just choose one, and it's either gonna be Wlad or Vitali based on their resume, activity, domination and Wlad sounded better. PLUS his video calling out Haye was just too good to pass up for this as you saw.

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            #25
            Originally posted by cupocity303
            Thank you for being so kind and your authoritarian position.

            No challange on Berto, Bradley, Alexander (i've explained my position on those three, I have no regrets, they're the future of boxing along with Andre Ward, all have world titles, solid boxing skills and for the most part dominant fighters, Mayweather-esque.)

            But Dawson - the best LIght-heavyweight in the world not even in the Top 10?

            Maybe you're the one who sucks.
            Berto and Bradley won't go far. theyre good but not P4P good. Berto is a B-class fighter at best. Alexander and Ward are the truth though. But P4P is about resume not about skills. Atleast in my opinion it is. And therefore the fighters I mentioned shoudnt be on there. And who the **** did Dawson beat?

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              #26
              Originally posted by wazaa.
              Berto and Bradley won't go far. theyre good but not P4P good. Berto is a B-class fighter at best. Alexander and Ward are the truth though. But P4P is about resume not about skills. Atleast in my opinion it is. And therefore the fighters I mentioned shoudnt be on there. And who the **** did Dawson beat?
              Not sure if serious.....

              Bradley is phenomenally skilled. Dawson is STILL the only man to beat Adamek as well as holding wins over (albeit old) Tarver and Johnson so I can see why he should be there. Your complaint about Berto though is justified.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
                Not sure if serious.....

                Bradley is phenomenally skilled. Dawson is STILL the only man to beat Adamek as well as holding wins over (albeit old) Tarver and Johnson so I can see why he should be there. Your complaint about Berto though is justified.
                Oh **** , I forgot Dawson beat Adamek. I dont give him that much credit over wins over Tarver and Johnson. Just as much credit I give Williams over Winky. So having Dawson in the P4P list can be justified. But Berto is **** though.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by wazaa.
                  Berto and Bradley won't go far. theyre good but not P4P good. Berto is a B-class fighter at best. Alexander and Ward are the truth though. But P4P is about resume not about skills. Atleast in my opinion it is. And therefore the fighters I mentioned shoudnt be on there.
                  I understand that. That's the traditional way. And I explicitly said that "Resume" isn't one of my main criterias for this list. It's one of them but not the main one.

                  How dominant and winning streak came first and than quality of opponents.



                  And who the **** did Dawson beat?
                  As far as who Dawson beat, aside from a at that time Undefeated Thomas Adamek, who later became a Cruiserweight Champ and is now a Heavyweight contender.

                  Aside from beating at that time IBF Light-heavy and former Undisputed Champ Tarver and Glen Johnson twice.

                  I guess nobody.

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