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  • abolden2212
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    #721
    Pacquiao's team doesn't want the fight

    Why would Arum start the negotiations by telling the media that he will not be negotiating through the media because that is why the fight fell through last time, but every couple days there is news coming out of the Pacquiao camp.

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    • switchsouthpaw
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      #722
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      I'm not sure if you are aware but Floyd doesn't negotiate his fights. His negotiations are handled by Al Haymon and Leonard Ellerbe who do a fine job. While Floyd may convey his wants, it is ultimately those two who do his bidding for him. And in case you haven't noticed, prior to the Pacquiao negotiations, you never heard of Team Mayweather having issues in negotiations with regards to finances. Have you? Can you say the same for...Team Pacquiao, for instance? Ok then. So let's stop trying to play this "into the psyche of Floyd Mayweather" stuff. Goodness.

      Al Haymon reviews contracts and Leonard Ellerbe is Floyd's version of Richard Schaefer. Floyd requests certain things and then gives Ellerbe his marching orders to go out and get them. Floyd sets the game plan, with ODLH he (May) couldn't argue about PPV numbers, because ODLH was a mainstream crossover star, Floyd isn't.

      Hatton brought an entire country to the table, so what leverage did Mayweather have then? The numbers on a percentage, between he and Pac aren't that far apart, it seems as if he just wants to throw his weight around and many other writers happen to think the same.

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      • switchsouthpaw
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        #723
        Originally posted by Sugar Q
        Im a New Yorker Switchhitter. Aint no ****s where I come from :-) I don't have to look at anything but the facts and it's clear that Floyd really wants to fight Manny but Manny doesn't want the fight. Expert's say Floyd shouldn't accept 14 days either because a fighter can still juice in 14 days knowing that he still accepted the fight and 50/50. Aint no man gonna give up his ass to prove nothing to you and the other Tards. ENOUGH OF THE BS!!!!
        I'm from NY too sugarpants, attended college there. It's clear to you that he wants to fight Manny because that is your perception, it "clearly" isn't "clear" to the guys over at ESPN and various media outlets, why do you think that is? One big conspiracy?

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        • cixthree
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          #724
          Boy, I'm sure upset Bob kept his word to not negotiate thru the media. The wait is killing me

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          • IMDAZED
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            #725
            Originally posted by switchsouthpaw
            Al Haymon reviews contracts and Leonard Ellerbe is Floyd's version of Richard Schaefer. Floyd requests certain things and then gives Ellerbe his marching orders to go out and get them. Floyd sets the game plan, with ODLH he (May) couldn't argue about PPV numbers, because ODLH was a mainstream crossover star, Floyd isn't.

            Hatton brought an entire country to the table, so what leverage did Mayweather have then? The numbers on a percentage, between he and Pac aren't that far apart, it seems as if he just wants to throw his weight around and many other writers happen to think the same.
            Ok, let's break this down because you are really confusing the issue. It's not that difficult.

            Al Haymon does more than review contracts. Unless you think that's all an adviser does. Haymon is one of the sport's biggest power brokers. BTW, he was also the one who proposed OST. Second, you said that Ellerbe is Floyd's version of Schaefer. You mean the CEO of his promotional company? Uhh...duh!

            Third, what do you mean by the bolded? Here's some questions for you to chew on. How many PPV's had Hatton sold in the US prior to facing Floyd? Who got the bigger split? I think you need to think about what "leverage" means again.

            And finally...for the last time: Prior to the Pac negotiations, you have never heard of Mayweather having an issue negotiating finances for a fight. Not against Oscar (who made more than him) and not against Hatton (who made less). Coincidentally, Pacquiao backed out of negotiations multiple times against both.

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            • Sugar Q
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              #726
              Originally posted by switchsouthpaw
              I'm from NY too sugarpants, attended college there. It's clear to you that he wants to fight Manny because that is your perception, it "clearly" isn't "clear" to the guys over at ESPN and various media outlets, why do you think that is? One big conspiracy?
              Oh really? You better take another look at ESPN my dude cause Brian Kenny aint buying Pac's BS. If your referring to fat boy DR he's clearly a donuteating hater. I have a question. How can anyone be ranked above an undefeated, 5 division champion who has current wins over the #2 and #3 P4P best? Specially when the so-called #1 has 2 controversial fights with the #2 guy and by the way, going to college in NY and living there is 2 different things my dude. :-)
              Last edited by Sugar Q; 05-27-2010, 01:54 PM.

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              • switchsouthpaw
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                #727
                Originally posted by Sugar Q
                Oh really? You better take another look at ESPN my dude cause Brian Kenny aint buying Pac's BS. If your referring to fat boy DR he's clearly a donuteating hater. I have a question. How can anyone be ranked above an undefeated, 5 division champion who has current wins over the #2 and #3 P4P best? Specially when the so-called #1 has 2 controversial fights with the #2 guy and by the way, going to college in NY and living there is 2 different things my dude. :-)
                I lived there while I was in college and I met Raekwon at a chinese take out, that means something...not sure what exactly but I'll get back to you.

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                • switchsouthpaw
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                  #728
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Ok, let's break this down because you are really confusing the issue. It's not that difficult.

                  Al Haymon does more than review contracts. Unless you think that's all an adviser does. Haymon is one of the sport's biggest power brokers. BTW, he was also the one who proposed OST. Second, you said that Ellerbe is Floyd's version of Schaefer. You mean the CEO of his promotional company? Uhh...duh!

                  Third, what do you mean by the bolded? Here's some questions for you to chew on. How many PPV's had Hatton sold in the US prior to facing Floyd? Who got the bigger split? I think you need to think about what "leverage" means again.

                  And finally...for the last time: Prior to the Pac negotiations, you have never heard of Mayweather having an issue negotiating finances for a fight. Not against Oscar (who made more than him) and not against Hatton (who made less). Coincidentally, Pacquiao backed out of negotiations multiple times against both.
                  I know who Al Haymon is and I'm aware of what he does on a personal level, he reviews contracts for his fighters. I'm not aware of his other ancillary duties, his main function is to act as an advocate on behalf of the fighters that he represents, making sure that their contract demands are met.

                  Hatton had lucrative television distribution rights in Europe, he brought more money to the table and that is what I mean by looking at things in context, much in the same way that Wladimir Klitschko has distribution rights in Germany and doesn't need to come to the US in order to make the most money. Hatton and Mayweather made financial sense at the time.

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                    #729
                    Hmm, Pac agrees to drug testing but then Floyd pulls this bull****. I expect nothing less from Floyd.

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                    • IMDAZED
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                      #730
                      Originally posted by switchsouthpaw
                      I know who Al Haymon is and I'm aware of what he does on a personal level, he reviews contracts for his fighters. I'm not aware of his other ancillary duties, his main function is to act as an advocate on behalf of the fighters that he represents, making sure that their contract demands are met.

                      Hatton had lucrative television distribution rights in Europe, he brought more money to the table and that is what I mean by looking at things in context, much in the same way that Wladimir Klitschko has distribution rights in Germany and doesn't need to come to the US in order to make the most money. Hatton and Mayweather made financial sense at the time.
                      Uhh...who said it didn't make financial sense? What I said (for the THIRD TIME), is that you have never heard of Mayweather having financial issues when negotiating a fight up until Pacquiao. Not with Hatton; not with Oscar; not with anyone. The same cannot be said for Team Pacquiao.

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