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  • mrjoeblive
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    #461
    Originally posted by SluggerFan
    @mrJoeBlive... Pacman didn't try to steal 250k from ODLH. Actually, ODLH tried to steal Pacman's rights from Arum and got caught. Pacman took the money and tried to give it back, that's when ODLH said no, we have a contract (which was a violation of Pacman's contract). Come on, Pacman was forced to quit school at 10 years old to help out his father, which he hated, so he ran away at 12. No one said Pacman was a rocket scientist. And of course he fights for money, it's just that to him pride is more important than money...
    hey sugger, from what i read oscar met manny and gave him a case containing 250,000 cash to sign with gbp. at this time he was a free agent he insted signed with arum and refused to give oscar the 250,000 back. so oscar took him to court and a judge forced pac to give oscar the 250k back and awarded oscar a percentage of ALL pac future fights. so whenever pac fights oscar gets paid. true story. im proud of the fact pac overcame abject poverty. i dont hold that against him. im not concerned about his intellect. but i dont think his pride is more important to him than money. growing up poor you never want to go back to that way of life. and any real man dont want his children to taste poverty. thats why he gouges some opponets(90/10) and goes for the top dollar. and i would do the same if i were in his or floyds shoes. they have the opportunity to set up generations. and they should go for it with gusto. but dont insult me by saying a man that bashes skulls in for a living dont do it for money. he does it just for the love of it.

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    • buckdacious
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      #462
      Originally posted by SluggerFan
      @Buckadacious.... good point about Berto but that poor guy would get KO'd. I don't think I would pay to see that but I would pay to see him vs. Paul Williams. I thought Williams was kinda exposed against Martinez (I had the fight scored a draw) but Williams has a way of getting countered and we all know, Floyd can counter like a mofo. I just think Williams would have a chance to land some punches and make a good fight. Let me ask you... was Floyd vs. ODLH or Floyd vs. Marquez exciting? I didn't think so and the Mosley fight was intiguing for 6 rounds, but the last 6 rounds was a Floyd schooling. I know, you say like Roy Jones in his prime, nobody could touch him but I like guys who FIGHT and fight hard, slug if they have to, box if they have to, etc. Like that fight last week with Perez vs. Mares... That was some awesome ****, don't you agree?
      The Williams fight would be sweet and nobody cant say Williams isnt in his prime. I didnt think Floyd-ODH was exciting but I liked watching Mayweather-marquez. Maybe it was because i was there but watching a guy truley just an embrasses and truely great fighter in JMM and have him land only 12% and me intrested the whole fight.

      What I dont get his how PPL get made when Mayweather just whoops Ass!! Mayweather standed toe to toe thw whole fight against Mosley and PPl are complaing?? I just dont get it, that fight was not boring at all. Mosley has never been KO so I dont know what anybody else wanted Mayweather to do. The Man got hit but a serious bomb in the 2nd round and expect for running around scared in round 3 he came out scraping like a true warrior.

      I love A slugfest but I for sure like to see boxing period and Mayweather is a pure boxer.

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      • jayhova29
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        #463
        Originally posted by Boxingholic
        Manny was busy for congress seat election back in March, now he won seat and can focus back to boxing. But Flyod finds another excuse of more money now after Pac agreed to 14 days cut-off. WTF???
        he was to busy for congress. Thats the best you can do. lol So let me get your view point straight, he was do busy fighting for a seat, so he fought clottey the same day, no random blood test and for 25 to 30 million less. Not to mention that the purse split was 90-10 in pacquaio's favor. Well since that time this is what i saw, i saw mayweather destroy a guy pacquaio didn't want to step in the ring with at 140lbs, i also saw him collect more money for that ass whopping that both clottey, pacquaio, and shane mosley made combined. So why are they surprise he's asking for more money, he rightfully deserves it. Be serious, if Pacquiao could make as much money as Mayweather did, he would stand firm on his 24 days, instead making people believe that since mayweather changed his stance he's afraid, so did you, and its because your desparate to save face. They need mayweather, not for the other way around.

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        • RyantheLion
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          #464
          Originally posted by Twako
          two biggest ppv stars right now, p4p 1&2. pac FOTD, floyd undefeated. 50/50 is fair.
          YEAH **** YEAH MAN! Simple as that! IMO P4P = 1!

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          • Tweezy316
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            #465
            Originally posted by jayhova29
            i agree, team pacquiao is just setting the stage to make mayweather look like he's afraid so they can fight margacheato without the same backlash they did earlier in the year when manny refused OST. Team Pacquaio needs to understand that back in January they had the upper hand and mayweather knew that, thats why he agreed to 10 million clause if he was overweight, to a 50-50 purse split, and to wear 8oz gloves. Now Mayweather is in the driver seat, if they cant figure that out now, i could care less if this fight happens let him fight margarito he'll do about another 750,000 buys, then floyd will top 1mil no matter who he fights and make 4 times as much as pacquiao. I can care less because the more they try and make it seem like their trying to accomodate him, the more its obvious they're avoiding him. Dont worry though, Bob arum would love to keep top rank vs top rank in house to line his pockets. Playing favorites is cheating history. But numbers dont lie, people do.
            They planned on fighting Margarito the whole time. But tell me this. Why doesn't he get any **** for this? He fought Clottey and all they said was Clottey is a FORMER champion. Now they wanna fight Margarito and they're saying Margarito is a FORMER champion. Why isn't Manny fighting CURRENT CHAMPIONS? Am I the only one thinking this?

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            • hitking
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              #466
              Originally posted by gwildcat77
              LATE LAST YEAR.. AFTER PAC BEAT COTTO made 1.25 MIL and FLOYD BEAT MARQUEZ made 1.0 MIL... DID PAC ASK FOR MORE THAN 50-50 back in this year's FEBRUARY NEGOTIATIONS ?!?!?!? Besides, FLOYD is RICH already, throwing away an opportunity to be GREATER take down a TOP DAWG in his era.
              I don't think Pacquaio it would be a good negotiating tactic for Pac to use Mayweather-Marquez against Money considering that it did 1.1M units while Pacquaio-Marquez II did 400K. And Money deserving a bigger share of the purse isn't solely about Mayweather-Mosley doubling Pacquaio-Clottey in units. Since Money's return, he and Pac have had two PPV events apiece. In those events, Money has outdrawn Pac by 500K buys with about the same level of dance partner when it comes to marketability. That's will total well over $25M more revenue that Money's events have produced. Therefore to say that Pac is "entitled" to a 50/50 split at this point is crazy. Would it be in good nature for Money to accept 50/50 to make negotiations go smoother? Absolutely. But why should he participate in this event and not be paid a fair market value for what he's bringing to the table. I mean, would you take a 5%-10% pay cut on your job just in good faith?

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              • jayhova29
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                #467
                Originally posted by SluggerFan
                @JayHova... good point, I didn't even think of that. This could be a ploy by Floyd to say "I'll take a 50-50 split, you drop the lawsuit!" I hope it is and if Manny won't drop the suit, then he will be the *****. If he drops the lawsuit and Floyd still demands more money, then he might be the *****. Bottom line, you made a good point that I never even thought of... So, I say, Manny drop the lawsuit, agree to 14 day testing, agree to a 50-50 split or 60-40 split for the winner, and make the damn fight...
                or even better, if its really and integrity issue on floyd and lets say the 14days is the sticking point, maybe a lie detector would suit both parties if they agreed to take it during the window they won't be tested if its a cut off date. Pacquaio can't complain or use being weak as an excuse, and if they believe floyd used xylocaine at any time taking a lie detector test will determine, I took one when i was in the army and the are very accurate.

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                • SluggerFan
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                  #468
                  @JoeBlive... okay, you may be right but actually Pacman had signed with Arum before he signed with ODLH and took the money. That's why Arum gets the lions share and ODLH gets only a piece of the pie, when it comes to promoter's share. In all of this, I feel that ODLH took advantage of the lack on intelligence of Pacman, kinda like Don King did with Tyson. Come on, bringing a suitcase with cash is Don Kingism all the way.

                  Be that as it may, we all wanna see the fight. It would be one for the ages. I mean if Manny drops the lawsuit, agrees to the 14 day drug testing thing, agrees to 50-50 split or 60-40 to the winner, why not just fight. But I know Manny's pride was hurt when he as accused of something I don't feel he ever has done (God only knows) and that has hurt the negotiations. I think Floyd Sr. is a babbling idiot (thank you Ray Leonard for that) and I can't believe everyone would believe him. But whatever, just make the f**king fight or Manny can fight a Margarito and let's see Floyd fight Williams or Martinez. Just do something....

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                  • gwildcat77
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                    #469
                    FLOYD demands drug test on someone who never tested positive.

                    EVERYONE WAS RIGHT.. that if FLOYD keeps asking for MORE DEMANDS.. then it would seem that he just doesn't really want to fight at all and is JUST trying to stray away from the MEGA-FIGHT.

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                    • switchsouthpaw
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                      #470
                      Originally posted by hitking
                      I don't think Pacquaio it would be a good negotiating tactic for Pac to use Mayweather-Marquez against Money considering that it did 1.1M units while Pacquaio-Marquez II did 400K. And Money deserving a bigger share of the purse isn't solely about Mayweather-Mosley doubling Pacquaio-Clottey in units. Since Money's return, he and Pac have had two PPV events apiece. In those events, Money has outdrawn Pac by 500K buys with about the same level of dance partner when it comes to marketability. That's will total well over $25M more revenue that Money's events have produced. Therefore to say that Pac is "entitled" to a 50/50 split at this point is crazy. Would it be in good nature for Money to accept 50/50 to make negotiations go smoother? Absolutely. But why should he participate in this event and not be paid a fair market value for what he's bringing to the table. I mean, would you take a 5%-10% pay cut on your job just in good faith?
                      You know what Clottey brought to the table? His mother and a priest. Also I guarantee you that having the promotion of an HBO 24/7 especially a 4 part series, accounts for much of the limited discrepancy in numbers.

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