Comments Thread For: Goodman Questions Mayweather-Mosley Drug Testing Gap

[Drunken Cat]

http://www.examiner.com/x-21442-Sacr...ng-Is-it-a-PED

It isn't banned by any SAC. Just a set of rules to when it could be used.

There was nothing that said it was not banned by SACs.

There were three sources: USADA, USFDA, and Nevada.

Only mention of SACs was by USADA:

He also said that individual state athletic commissions might have additional stipulations.

Now, with this said, I will admit, being that I am not here to deceit and spin, or manipulate facts, like most of you all are, that in a brief search, I haven't found anything conclusive that it either is or isn't banned outside of Vegas.

Frankly, there's a lot out there saying that it is banned in 49 states, but I haven't found anything which cannot be called rumor mongering. Due to the vast number of threads on this at various websites though, it's basically tedious to get to real information.

Now, here's the thing. I don't have time for this ****. That's not a cop out, I really don't.

I made a statement based on what I understand to perhaps be the case. If you guys want to contradict me, come back with something conclusive.

Otherwise, we are both in the same boat an nobody really knows what the hell the actual truth of the matter is.

And then again, here is where we hit a wall, as you guys are only interested in making Floyd look good. Oh well, that's where we stand I guess.

[IMDAZED]

There was nothing that said it was not banned by SACs.

There were three sources: USADA, USFDA, and Nevada.

Only mention of SACs was by USADA:


Now, with this said, I will admit, being that I am not here to deceit and spin, or manipulate facts, like most of you all are, that in a brief search, I haven't found anything conclusive that it either is or isn't banned outside of Vegas.

Frankly, there's a lot out there saying that it is banned in 49 states, but I haven't found anything which cannot be called rumor mongering. Due to the vast number of threads on this at various websites though, it's basically tedious to get to real information.

Now, here's the thing. I don't have time for this ****. That's not a cop out, I really don't.

I made a statement based on what I understand to perhaps be the case. If you guys want to contradict me, come back with something conclusive.

Otherwise, we are both in the same boat an nobody really knows what the hell the actual truth of the matter is.

And then again, here is where we hit a wall, as you guys are only interested in making Floyd look good. Oh well, that's where we stand I guess.

Do you have anything to back your statement...at all? besides "hearsay"?

[Drunken Cat]

Do you have anything to back your statement...at all? besides "hearsay"?

It was my understanding. I didn't say it to be disingenuous. Now, I am willing to stand corrected, however I have yet to see anything to suggest that what I said was untrue, Dominicano's article not withstanding.

And I really do not have time to research the issue right now.

I am actually legitimately curious, but I have something to get done tonight, and it is already 1:22am where I am.

[IMDAZED]

It was my understanding. I didn't say it to be disingenuous. Now, I am willing to stand corrected, however I have yet to see anything to suggest that what I said was untrue, Dominicano's article not withstanding.

And I really do not have time to research the issue right now.

I am actually legitimately curious, but I have something to get done tonight, and it is already 1:22am where I am.

Yet you have nothing that tells you otherwise.

[Drunken Cat]

Yet you have nothing that tells you otherwise.

Look, do a search on google with these terms:

Mayweather xylocaine.

You'll see about a million threads on the matter.

I thought I'd seen some news articles to the effect that it was banned in most if not all states outside of Nevada, but I can't say so definitively, being that it was a number of months ago.

Honestly, you guys are something else. Go wack off to some Mayweather fights or something. Maybe I'll look into this tomorrow or the next day or something; then again, maybe I won't. Until you come up with something you are every bit as non-credible. You responded to me in the first place, but yet you have nothing.

[pistol whip]

****** *****s.......don't you realise Floozy and USADA are in cahoots to bring down the P4p number 1, FOTD, Hero of Asia Manny "Pacman" Pacquaio

it's all a big conspiracy.....how do you silly *****s not get this

And all the accusations that Floyds camp made up about Pac arn't the exact same tin foil hat conspiracy thories that you are complaining about?

***ing hypocrite!

[Doctor_Tenma]

Is “Xyloclaine” the most ridiculous malicious rumour ever concocted on a forum?

You know, it’s not even very well done.


As background, the examiner isn’t a legit site. It’s a hosting site for fan blogs. The article is very amateurish (lots of Mayweather is a ducker, a coward, mixed in with wild accusations) and it’s easy about as dumb as it gets. Well, if you have ever been to a boxing gym.

Firstly, scratching the surface, it’s actually legal in most states. I think it’s only illegal in about 7. No state that hosts any sort of contact sport regularly has it banned. As pain killing injections are important in the treatment of injuries. What’s more, the states the writer says it is banned in – it’s not actually “banned” as in on a PED list. It’s banned, as in you’re literally not allowed to buy it, as the state hasn’t deemed it safe for use.

You know “banned in 49 states”, I’m not sure if that bit has been added on for affect by other plotters, but it’s plainly false.

Secondly, you can tell an amateurish smear effort, by the fact that they don’t even realise that Mayweather has fought all over the place since 2002 when he made the video (ironically for a HBO documentary on hand injuries, and how they are treated in sport).

He’s fought in 7 different states since thevideo. Oregon, California, Miami, Michigan, New York, New Jersey being some of them. He’s actually fought in more different states than Pacquiao!? He’s only actually fought in Nevada 10 times in his entire career in fact.

Thirdly, if you actually box, or play football at a decent level, you’ll laugh at this. It’s a real weak claim. The guys knowledge of boxing must just extend to having a picture of Manny on their wall. It’s a claim that has and has no respect for the sport.

Xyloclaine, Cortisone, and other pain killing injections are used legally in most boxing gyms. I have been lucky enough to play both college football, and box professionally for a couple of years. I’ve taken pain killing injections in both, fully legally, in most states.

Treatment of injury or ailment is not performance enhancing. If athletes couldn’t numb injured limbs then sport would fall apart. It’s nothing to do with fighting. It’s just to allow you to train through injuries, and to allow people with birth defects like that to compete at an even level. I guarantee Pacquiao doesn’t feel any pain whatsoever in any punch he throws. So, if you get a lot of hand injuries, of course you take pain killing injections.

You know, seriously, you could hit a tree 300 times with a boxing glove. You wouldn’t feel it. Especially with in ring adrenaline. The theory that Manny Pacquiaos punching power is based on the fact that he holds back as punching hurts him, is both ridiculous, hilarious and humiliating.

Gloves are designed to protect the hands as much as they are the face. They numb pain themselves. They are the original “number”. All the drugs suggested do is allow people born with hand problems to compete at the same level.

Finally, this is rather a malicious campaign. Not a news story. The guy who wrote it also posted 152 questions on the subject, with a link, to “Yahoo questions”. 152………I

They also posted several videos on the subject to Youtube, with links to his article. And his cronies have been flooding message boards with links to it. On the principle that those are the only sites that will take such ******ity I assume

The only real truths to the article are the fact that Mayweather used a legal pain killer in 2002 (when he discussed it in an documentary)interview about hand injuries on HBO.

I’m supposing the follow up article will be “Tennis Player uses legal cough medicine shocker. Not going into a bout bunged up is a Performance Enhancer”.

The only true aspects of the story are that Mayweather used a legal pain killer in 2002.

The made up bits are that it’s “banned in 49 states” – it’s banned in about 5, and only for medical reasons. Not “banned” as in on a PE drugs list. Banned, as in, you can buy it in a chemist in Oregon, but not errrr, Kansas. Some states deem it dangerous, as treating joint injuries with pain killing injections – you are really risking disability in the area.

Floyd has also fought in 7 different states states the video was made since 2002. More than Pacquiao. What’s more, it isn’t even illegal in Texas. Think that was another odd claim.

Seriously. I like watching Manny, but I find his fans hard work. They tend to flood decent boards with malicious intent. Most of which is usually at least 50% made up.

You know, pulling out of the biggest fight ever, over drug testing, is what it is. Of course people will be su****ious. If a MLB slugger said he wouldn’t take Olympic random testing, people would think that he is on something.

You know, I’d suggest that “Mayweather uses legal pain killer, that’s legal almost anywhere, and used widely in most MMA and boxing gyms, as wells as pro football”. You know, if I ever write that book about dumb amateur boxing “pundits”, this will be on the first page.

[IMDAZED]

Look, do a search on google with these terms:

Mayweather xylocaine.

You'll see about a million threads on the matter.

I thought I'd seen some news articles to the effect that it was banned in most if not all states outside of Nevada, but I can't say so definitively, being that it was a number of months ago.

Honestly, you guys are something else. Go wack off to some Mayweather fights or something. Maybe I'll look into this tomorrow or the next day or something; then again, maybe I won't. Until you come up with something you are every bit as non-credible. You responded to me in the first place, but yet you have nothing.

I've done searches - nothing concrete. Again, your post is hearsay and based on dog****. Go somewhere.

[Drunken Cat]

Is “Xyloclaine” the most ridiculous malicious rumour ever concocted on a forum?

You know, it’s not even very well done.


As background, the examiner isn’t a legit site. It’s a hosting site for fan blogs. The article is very amateurish (lots of Mayweather is a ducker, a coward, mixed in with wild accusations) and it’s easy about as dumb as it gets. Well, if you have ever been to a boxing gym.

Firstly, scratching the surface, it’s actually legal in most states. I think it’s only illegal in about 7. No state that hosts any sort of contact sport regularly has it banned. As pain killing injections are important in the treatment of injuries. What’s more, the states the writer says it is banned in – it’s not actually “banned” as in on a PED list. It’s banned, as in you’re literally not allowed to buy it, as the state hasn’t deemed it safe for use.

You know “banned in 49 states”, I’m not sure if that bit has been added on for affect by other plotters, but it’s plainly false.

Secondly, you can tell an amateurish smear effort, by the fact that they don’t even realise that Mayweather has fought all over the place since 2002 when he made the video (ironically for a HBO documentary on hand injuries, and how they are treated in sport).

He’s fought in 7 different states since thevideo. Oregon, California, Miami, Michigan, New York, New Jersey being some of them. He’s actually fought in more different states than Pacquiao!? He’s only actually fought in Nevada 10 times in his entire career in fact.

Thirdly, if you actually box, or play football at a decent level, you’ll laugh at this. It’s a real weak claim. The guys knowledge of boxing must just extend to having a picture of Manny on their wall. It’s a claim that has and has no respect for the sport.

Xyloclaine, Cortisone, and other pain killing injections are used legally in most boxing gyms. I have been lucky enough to play both college football, and box professionally for a couple of years. I’ve taken pain killing injections in both, fully legally, in most states.

Treatment of injury or ailment is not performance enhancing. If athletes couldn’t numb injured limbs then sport would fall apart. It’s nothing to do with fighting. It’s just to allow you to train through injuries, and to allow people with birth defects like that to compete at an even level. I guarantee Pacquiao doesn’t feel any pain whatsoever in any punch he throws. So, if you get a lot of hand injuries, of course you take pain killing injections.

You know, seriously, you could hit a tree 300 times with a boxing glove. You wouldn’t feel it. Especially with in ring adrenaline. The theory that Manny Pacquiaos punching power is based on the fact that he holds back as punching hurts him, is both ridiculous, hilarious and humiliating.

Gloves are designed to protect the hands as much as they are the face. They numb pain themselves. They are the original “number”. All the drugs suggested do is allow people born with hand problems to compete at the same level.

Finally, this is rather a malicious campaign. Not a news story. The guy who wrote it also posted 152 questions on the subject, with a link, to “Yahoo questions”. 152………I

They also posted several videos on the subject to Youtube, with links to his article. And his cronies have been flooding message boards with links to it. On the principle that those are the only sites that will take such ******ity I assume

The only real truths to the article are the fact that Mayweather used a legal pain killer in 2002 (when he discussed it in an documentary)interview about hand injuries on HBO.

I’m supposing the follow up article will be “Tennis Player uses legal cough medicine shocker. Not going into a bout bunged up is a Performance Enhancer”.

The only true aspects of the story are that Mayweather used a legal pain killer in 2002.

The made up bits are that it’s “banned in 49 states” – it’s banned in about 5, and only for medical reasons. Not “banned” as in on a PE drugs list. Banned, as in, you can buy it in a chemist in Oregon, but not errrr, Kansas. Some states deem it dangerous, as treating joint injuries with pain killing injections – you are really risking disability in the area.

Floyd has also fought in 7 different states states the video was made since 2002. More than Pacquiao. What’s more, it isn’t even illegal in Texas. Think that was another odd claim.

Seriously. I like watching Manny, but I find his fans hard work. They tend to flood decent boards with malicious intent. Most of which is usually at least 50% made up.

You know, pulling out of the biggest fight ever, over drug testing, is what it is. Of course people will be su****ious. If a MLB slugger said he wouldn’t take Olympic random testing, people would think that he is on something.

You know, I’d suggest that “Mayweather uses legal pain killer, that’s legal almost anywhere, and used widely in most MMA and boxing gyms, as wells as pro football”. You know, if I ever write that book about dumb amateur boxing “pundits”, this will be on the first page.

Seems like a rather non-factual piece, though it's starting to look like a bit of a gray-area issue.

For the record, I was at the Mayweather-Mitchell fight in Portland, Oregon.

Anyway's, thank's to Dominicano for at least providing some evidence, although nothing convincing. I'm out, and that's only because I have something to attend to now.

[Drunken Cat]

I've done searches - nothing concrete. Again, your post is hearsay and based on dog****. Go somewhere.

Get Mayweather's **** out of your mouth before you type.

You are the sort of moron I would prefer not to associate with.

You have nothing, just meaningless bull**** to support your pro-Mayweather biases. How about you learn how to think logically first, and then talk to me.