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yet if all those fighters u mentioned would have beaten b-hop then he'd be past his prime/shot... give the executioner his due past 40
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This is all I really care to address. B-Hop started boxing in prison a few years before he faced Roy Jones, who had had an excellent amateur career. Hopkins was still green as hell.Originally posted by Darth Sidious View PostComment
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Anyone can break down a fighters resume/achivements.
The majority of people in boxing rate Hopkins as a great fighter who had a great career.Comment
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Yet the same people in this thread diminish Calzaghe as an ATG even though Calzaghe has done the same as Hopkins. Title defenses and so on.Originally posted by Precision View PostComment
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Thats why they are haters. Anyone with a brain rates Calzaghe well.Originally posted by Chunk View Post
What pushes Hopkins ahead of Calzaghe is the bigger names and bigger wins on his resume. Hopkins best wins are fights he wasn't supposed to win.Comment
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the title of your thread says it all...you're an idiot. i don't even need to read all your bull**** to confirm it.Originally posted by Darth Sidious View PostLet's take a quick look at Bhop's greatest wins and some of his losses.
Key wins:
10.18.2008 Kelly Pavlik - Prior to fighting Bernard Hopkins at 170lbs, Kelly Pavlik was the best 160 pounder on the planet. 160 was his prime weight, however Hopkins fought him 10lbs above this weight.
07.21.2007 Winky Wright - Winky spent most of his career fighting at 154. He was coming off a great winning streak and had never fought over 159 pounds before fighting Bernard Hopkins. Again, Hopkins defeated Winky at a weight Winky was not comfortable at, 170lbs.
06.10.2006 Antonio Tarver - Bernard Hopkins wins a decision over Antonio Tarver who made a name for himself by beating a shot Roy Jones Jr. Bernard beats someone at their best weight. Too bad it was a C+ fighter.
09.18.2004 Oscar De La Hoya - Oscar De La Hoya who's prime weight was at 147 suffered a 9th round KO by Bernard Hopkins who had spent the last year at 160 and slimmed down four pounds to fight Oscar who by the way is 6-3 at fights above welterweight. 1 of those win being a robbery against Felix Sturm.
09.29.2001 Felix Trinidad - This sadly is the greatest win of Bernard Hopkins' career. Anyone who followed Trinidad knows that like Oscar, his best weight was 147. Bernard Hopkins beats Trinidad at middleweight, which is two classes above Trinidad's prime weight.
Key Losses:
4.19.2008 Joe Calzaghe - Joe Calzaghe moves up one weight class from Super Middleweight to Light Heavyweight. This time it backfires on Hopkins as Hopkins is dealt a schooling at the hands of Calzaghe after saying he'd never lose to a white boy.
12.03.2005 & 7.16.2005 Jermain Taylor - Jermain Taylor beats Hopkins twice in what Hopkins' fans called a robbery, x2. The truth is when Hopkins decides to fight elite fighters his size, Taylor has his number.
05.22.1993 Roy Jones Jr. - Roy Jones wins a very decisive decision over Bernard Hopkins. Hopkins' fans will tell you this was a green version of Hopkins, but fail to mention it was a green version of Jones who even admitted before the fight that Hopkins was his toughest opponent to date. The weird thing is while Hopkins was "green" he was older than RJJ. This is important because when Hopkins rematched Jones 17 years later his fans cry that Hopkins is older than Jones implying that it was even. So his age has nothing to do with being green against Jones, but it is a factor in the rematch? Which is it?
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You fail to mention Bernards best weight was 160,and that the man was avoided like the plague most of his career.Originally posted by Darth Sidious View PostLet's take a quick look at Bhop's greatest wins and some of his losses.
Key wins:
10.18.2008 Kelly Pavlik - Prior to fighting Bernard Hopkins at 170lbs, Kelly Pavlik was the best 160 pounder on the planet. 160 was his prime weight, however Hopkins fought him 10lbs above this weight.
07.21.2007 Winky Wright - Winky spent most of his career fighting at 154. He was coming off a great winning streak and had never fought over 159 pounds before fighting Bernard Hopkins. Again, Hopkins defeated Winky at a weight Winky was not comfortable at, 170lbs.
06.10.2006 Antonio Tarver - Bernard Hopkins wins a decision over Antonio Tarver who made a name for himself by beating a shot Roy Jones Jr. Bernard beats someone at their best weight. Too bad it was a C+ fighter.
09.18.2004 Oscar De La Hoya - Oscar De La Hoya who's prime weight was at 147 suffered a 9th round KO by Bernard Hopkins who had spent the last year at 160 and slimmed down four pounds to fight Oscar who by the way is 6-3 at fights above welterweight. 1 of those win being a robbery against Felix Sturm.
09.29.2001 Felix Trinidad - This sadly is the greatest win of Bernard Hopkins' career. Anyone who followed Trinidad knows that like Oscar, his best weight was 147. Bernard Hopkins beats Trinidad at middleweight, which is two classes above Trinidad's prime weight.
Key Losses:
4.19.2008 Joe Calzaghe - Joe Calzaghe moves up one weight class from Super Middleweight to Light Heavyweight. This time it backfires on Hopkins as Hopkins is dealt a schooling at the hands of Calzaghe after saying he'd never lose to a white boy.
12.03.2005 & 7.16.2005 Jermain Taylor - Jermain Taylor beats Hopkins twice in what Hopkins' fans called a robbery, x2. The truth is when Hopkins decides to fight elite fighters his size, Taylor has his number.
05.22.1993 Roy Jones Jr. - Roy Jones wins a very decisive decision over Bernard Hopkins. Hopkins' fans will tell you this was a green version of Hopkins, but fail to mention it was a green version of Jones who even admitted before the fight that Hopkins was his toughest opponent to date. The weird thing is while Hopkins was "green" he was older than RJJ. This is important because when Hopkins rematched Jones 17 years later his fans cry that Hopkins is older than Jones implying that it was even. So his age has nothing to do with being green against Jones, but it is a factor in the rematch? Which is it?
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Which fighters avoided him? I know Toney has always wanted to fight himOriginally posted by MARKBNLV View PostComment
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sigh.............................Comment
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