'USADA is not capable of certifying that athletes are clean' -Conte

[carts]

ok u got me like i said i did missed something in this thread....

[Chuckguy]

I would love for someone to post a testing agency that is 100% accurate and never been cheated on. Every testing agency has been cheated on. The drug makers are a step ahead of the game. SHane Mosley beat the NSAC testing with the clear and the cream. Marion Jones beat the OST with the came stuff. Now there is testing for it but there are other products under the radar.
It will always be this way

[Kingstan315]

He also said:

"I would not want to single-out Manny Pacquiao because I have no direct evidence that he has used any performance enhancing drugs. That being said, I think we need to be su****ious of everybody at the elite level. What he's doing, to go from the lower weight divisions up to many divisions higher and maintain his speed and power- is that su****ious? Yes it is. But are there people throughout Olympic or professional sports history that are just genetic freaks and have a mindset that's powerful, and I guess the question is, 'Could you do what Manny Pacquiao does?' or 'Could other fighters do what Manny Pacquiao does and be clean?', I believe with hard-tech nutrition and training and these other available methods like this intermittent hypoxic training which has some of the benefits, the same benefits you would receive from using EPO, I believe it can be done"

Okay he said that in May while talking to the Filipino sports examiner, It sounds to me he will say whatever and change position like an ugly girl looking for attention.

[Kingstan315]

anyway here is more from the same article:

However, Victor Conte wasn’t only su****ious of Pacquiao’s lean muscle mass, but he also questions the reasons why Manny would only agree to be tested 24 days out from the fight.

“Pacquiao said he had agreed initially to testing 30 days out, then he agreed to cut that to 24 days out in the final phases of the negotiations. Well, let’s look at what could be done with a 24-day window. What athletes are doing now is using low-dose testosterone. The gels and the creams will clear in a day. Oral testosterone will clear in about four days. With intense training and a two-week program of anabolic steroids or low-dose testosterone, you can get a significant advantage in terms of strength and power. But if you taper off, you’re much faster 10 days to two weeks out than you are while you’re still on the stuff.”… Conte (source:The Sweet Science)

Victor just assumes that Pacquiao is “dirty” because of his tainted view on athletes and the fact that so many elite athletes have been caught cheating. However, Victor is guilty for assisting in the creation of this culture of performance enhancements. Unfortunately, like I said in previous articles, Manny is guilty by association in the minds of his critics.

[Slick_Rick]

Okay he said that in May while talking to the Filipino sports examiner, It sounds to me he will say whatever and change position like an ugly girl looking for attention.

How is it different from what he has pervioulsy said. He said "I think we need to be su****ious of everybody at the elite level". This includes Pac as well!

You believe what you want to believe. And that goes for so many people on here, if it does not tail into your mindset, you will twist it till people follow the same trail of thought as your own.

I applaud Floyd, for the Psychological hold he has over people.

He is the Puppet Master.

[sunny31]

I put up a thread weeks ago about this, about someone I had spoken to in medicine, specifically about epo and this article just reiterates what a family friend said, which was the testing would need to be done over 6 months min, more like a year for it to be effective.

Epo clears out of your system around a week or so after taking but the effects can last much longer, and if used long term a person doesn't need to take it anywhere near as much to retain the same effect, making it even harder to detect.

Floyd mayweather's testing is bull****, he has no idea what he is talking about...this was always a ploy against pacquiao rather than "cleaning up the sport", I have nothing against him as a fighter or the mayweather's when it comes to the fight game, they have truly mastered their sport, but when it comes to real world **** they are as ****** as it gets. I am not saying definitely either way that manny is on ped's or not, but the testing is bs everyone should be able to see that much!

[Kingstan315]

How is it different from what he has pervioulsy said. He said "I think we need to be su****ious of everybody at the elite level". This includes Pac as well!

You believe what you want to believe. And that goes for so many people on here, if it does not tail into your mindset, you will twist it till people follow the same trail of thought as your own.

I applaud Floyd, for the Psychological hold he has over people.

He is the Puppet Master.

This is were I'm coming from. I feel that posting comments from this guy to try and paint the picture that Floyd is scared of Pac is invalid. the guy in 1 breath will say that blood testing should be done within 5 days then in the next say Floyd should exept a 14 day cut off. Truthfully i just want to see the fight. I got my money on floyd....

[Monte Fisto]

OK, so why were you and the rest of the *******s jumping for JOY that Manny accepting an expired 14 day offer to do this "joke" testing? You guys just don't understand how silly you all REALLY look.

Not only that, but if you think that any agency will test athletes everyday of the year, then I have some land in Manila that I would LOVE to sell you.

Uhh, quit generalizing. Where in my posts do I express joy that PAC is now okay with a 14 day cutoff ?

[V.WEBB]

Uhh, quit generalizing. Where in my posts do I express joy that PAC is now okay with a 14 day cutoff ?

Re-read my post. I was talking about *******S. If you are not a *******, then I wasn't talking to you. If you are, then I was.

[jrv1932]

have you read conte's interviews?

he's the guy who created the PED's for f's sake. he said floyd-shane testing is ****.

point is, if floyd wanted to clean up the sport, he would have done what olympians do, which is subject himself to testing year round. that would truly set an example.

not choose the fighters he would do olympic style testing within a period that can easily be beaten.

point here, there isn't a significant improvement in floyd's proposed testing if it can be cheated as well.

Victor conte created peds? Wow