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  • Young Money
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    #41
    Top Rank by far if you're building prospects. There's a lot of blind hate for Bob Arum but you cannot deny he is smart and knows what he is doing. Numbers don't lie.

    GBP put on good events but have mismanaged their fighters and are terrible at building prospects (or HBO hype jobs as they are known).

    DiBella entertainement P4P would be the best promoter for the fans and sport of boxing. Lou puts his fighters into risky opportunities with big payoffs. There's no protecting/hyping fighters here.

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    • War Dinamita
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      #42
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      He is not a good matchmaker he is a great matchmaker. The best in the business.

      GBP has a better relationship with HBO and get more dates more money. Lets face Greenburg is GBP and Al Haymon puppet. But, that is the sole reason why HBO is not getting in return what they put in. And, that is why they cut 15mil from their boxing budget.

      You say those shows are ****. But, you fail to realize that is Top Rank going to their pocket and producing those shows. There is a reason that other promoters including Golden Boy don't do that. Because, you don't always get a return in your investment and lose money.

      And, you know damn well that is the truth. And, Top Rank does not do it to make money. They do it to keep their fighters in the boxing public eye and to keep them active. While other promotional companies including Golden Boy would sit there fighters until they get TV dates and TV money.
      Yeah, he's the best in boxing.

      How can you say Arum is the best when he was the reason why the Pac vs. Money May fight didn't happen in March?

      Putting shows on TV that people don't watch or care about doesn't make you a good promoter.

      A good promoter would give his boxers an opportunity to make a name for themselves, pay them well when they sign to the company, and put together a good card for the fans when they pay good money to see them fight.

      When was the last time Arum put together a good PPV with a good undercard?

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      • The Comedian
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        #43
        Originally posted by paulf
        DiBella Entertainment is by far the best promotional company in the sport.

        Lou puts his guys in harms way on a regular basis. Real risks = real opportunity. He doesnt protect his fighters or set his guys up to fights bums and line his pockets.

        Bob Arum cashes in on having his guys fight each other in **** matchups, like the recent one that nearly put the brakes on Manny's rise to superstardom. Oscar spends all day trying to groom prettyboys into Oscar juniors until they get exposed instead of signing guys based on their boxing abilities.

        Martinezs first three US fights were against Cintron, Williams, and Pavlik. Malignaggi faced Hatton, Diaz x2, and Khan in a year-and-a-half span.

        He gives his guys the real chance to make something of themselves, and he supports them when they come up short. Lou's the best there is.
        I wouldn't go to DiBella if I wanted to be a household name or cash cow.

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          #44
          Originally posted by omarinbox
          DiBella is a GBP Partner!
          I really feel that Lou is a damn good promoter and shows emotion for his fighters.

          There is something fake about Oscar's personality that I can't really warm up to.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Young Money
            I really feel that Lou is a damn good promoter and shows emotion for his fighters.

            There is something fake about Oscar's personality that I can't really warm up to.
            i like gbp better but i agree oscar seems fake as hell

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              #46
              Originally posted by The Comedian
              I wouldn't go to DiBella if I wanted to be a household name or cash cow.
              I agree with that, but he is good for the fans and sport in general. In this age of protected fighters and the best not fighting the best, I think DiBella is doing a good job.

              From a young fighter's prospective you would want to be with Top Rank.

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              • War Dinamita
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                #47
                Originally posted by Young Money
                Top Rank by far if you're building prospects. There's a lot of blind hate for Bob Arum but you cannot deny he is smart and knows what he is doing. Numbers don't lie.

                GBP put on good events but have mismanaged their fighters and are terrible at building prospects (or HBO hype jobs as they are known).

                DiBella entertainement P4P would be the best promoter for the fans and sport of boxing. Lou puts his fighters into risky opportunities with big payoffs. There's no protecting/hyping fighters here.
                DiBella is not very good at making his fighters household names and making them into stars. He's a good solid promoter, but I wouldn't sign with him if I wanted to be a star and make millions. Just look what happened the last time he put together a boxing card, lol.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by California Love
                  I have said multiple times on here TR does a better job with young prospects and GBP does a better job with establish fighters.
                  cool.

                  Originally posted by California Love
                  Which promoter makes more money? Which promoter puts together better cards from top to bottom? Which promoter pays their boxers the most? Khan makes more fighting on HBO than a lot of the "stars" on TR, lol.
                  How do you know that GBP makes more money than Top Rank? As far as who put's better card together, well while I don't have the numbers in front of me, I can guarantee you that Top Rank puts out twice as many PPV's than GBP if not more. They spread a lot of their talent out over various PPV's so that is the main reason Top Rank cards aren't as stacked. With that said GBP last card was pure crap and top ranks last ppv with Cotto vs Pac and Pac vs Clottey were actually better (and I really don't think highly of those latter cards FWIW).


                  Originally posted by California Love
                  All those guys you mentioned would still be stars without Arum. Tell me why Mayweather, DLH, and other boxers made more money after they left Arum and became bigger stars. Arum was actually holding back Floyd from become the star he wanted to be.
                  Because when they left Arum that had so much momentum built up it wasn't even funny. That is suppose to happen btw and guys like King made a killing off of that (signing a guy who is on the cusp of super stardom or is already a big name). Also Floyd and Oscar did what all boxers should strive to do, become your own man to get the bigger cut of your fights. It's like Jay using def jam to build himself then branching off to make money off his own name. Same **** and props to them for doing that. Still doesn't take away from what Arum did for their careers.

                  Originally posted by California Love
                  Come back to me when Canelo and Frankie Gomez become stars. Don't give Arum credit for Jose Benavidez because the credit should go to his dad and Roach.
                  See this is just hating. Canelo has a big buzz in Mexico way before signing to GBP and Gomez, along with Ortiz are there two opportunities to show they can build stars. I hope they do, but I will just play the wait and see game with you. As far as benevidez (and why I said you were hating) is that Arum will create a huge buzz for him with his matchmaking and positioning him with tv dates and ppv's. To say he doesn't get credit is foolish bro.

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                  • omarinbox
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Young Money
                    Top Rank by far if you're building prospects. There's a lot of blind hate for Bob Arum but you cannot deny he is smart and knows what he is doing. Numbers don't lie.
                    Give De La Hoya 32 years and he'll be running his gyms better than Arum. The business will be more open. The game will be slicker and better promoted.

                    And the boxers will get better cuts and have a better understanding of the media.

                    Leave Arum in charge they'll all be going crazy cos he'll be telling them everythings fine. Leave it to me.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by California Love
                      DiBella is not very good at making his fighters household names and making them into stars. He's a good solid promoter, but I wouldn't sign with him if I wanted to be a star and make millions. Just look what happened the last time he put together a boxing card, lol.
                      Yeah he sucks in that respect, but I admire him putting his fighters in high risk/high reward situations.

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