Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: Mayweather Has No Reason Not To Fight Me

[trainhard_187]

More bull**** from Pacquaio! He knows that the 14-day window has been taken off the table and now he agrees to the 14-day window. If I didn't know better, I would say that Pacquaio doesn't want the fight! Or maybe he figures that cheating for 14 days is better than nothing for the extra $30 million he will receive over his last fight.

You are wrong, Pac. Floy does have a reason not to fight you. You haven't agreed to random tests up until the day of the fight like he is demanding. If you are not going to agree to his one demand, go and fight Margarito for $10 million in Mexico and shut the **** up.

Pac has made it known that HE WILL COMPLY WITH THE TEST with the originaly 14day cutoff.. TRUST ME, the word is out there in the boxing community.. Now if Floyd comes back and says NOPE, THAT OFFERS GONE.. Well, all Pac can do is say WE TRIED... NUFF SAID...

[SluggerFan]

And to whomever said I don't know boxing, I have been watching live fights from 1974 (Muhammed Ali vs. George Foreman) thru now. I've seen Tommy Hearns, Genaro Hernandez (three times), Michael Carbajal, Humberto Gonzales, Daniel Zaragoza, etc. fight live back in the 1980's. I saw Holyfield, Whitaker, Taylor, Virgil Hill, etc. live at the Olympics in Los Angeles in 1984. So, the fact I had unknown about Manny's troubles as a teenager mean nothing at this point...

[JayPro81]

Pac has made it known that HE WILL COMPLY WITH THE TEST with the originaly 14day cutoff.. TRUST ME, the word is out there in the boxing community.. Now if Floyd comes back and says NOPE, THAT OFFERS GONE.. Well, all Pac can do is say WE TRIED... NUFF SAID...

ARE YOU DENSE??? Floyd been said the 14 day cut off was off the table.

[hitking]

@ HitKing, the reason that Manny was fighter of the decade is this! First off, he never ducked anyone. Everytime out he put 100% effort and only lost once in the decade to Erik Morales, whom he then KO'd both times in their second and third fight. He knocked down Morales 4 times in their fights, knocked down JMM 4 times as well, knocked down Barrerra 3 times, knocked down Ricky Hatton 3 times, knocked down Cotto twice, etc. He fought the greats and knocked them all out...

Now, you say Mayweather never had a controversial win. Sorry about that, but Jose Luis Castillo could have easily got the decision in their first fight. So, you are wrong on that point. Also, Mayweather pecked and barely beat ODLH, Manny destroyed him when EVERYONE thought ODLH would be TOO BIG. Mayweather did catch Hatton and knock him out but Manny obliterated him. Going from 2000 thru 2009, fights against Genaro Hernandez (who was never that great anyway), Corrales, Castillo, Victoriano Sosa, Philip N'Dou, Demarcus Corley, Henry Bruseles, Arturo Gatti, Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah and Carlos Baldomir do not compare to fighting hall of famers Morales three times, Barrerra twice and JMM twice. Other than Corrales and Castillo, not one of those fighters is a hall of famer (Gatti is borderline but not for accomplishments but more for excitement value). They each fought ODLH and Hatton and Pacquiao looked better at battering them than Mayweather did beating them. Manny gives you more **** for his buck and that was most likely the deciding factor of who the fighter of the decade was. From 2000-2009, Manny was 28-1 with 21 KOs, Floyd was 18-0, 8 KOs...

Mayweaher had a controversal decision of Castillo in thefirst fight yes. He pretty much cleared that up in the rematc, Genaro Hernandez was undefeated at 130, lineal champ, and his only defeat was against a P4P elite (de la Hoya) in a bid got a lightweight belt. And Mayweather destroyed him in his 18th pro fight. Mayweather destroyed Chico, who was undefeated and a P4P elite. He had the two fights with Castillo, who wasl lineal lightweight champ and a P4P elite. He destroyed Hatton, who was undefeated and a P4P elite. He dismantled JMM, who was the then P4P #2. He dismantled Mosley, who was the then P4P #3. if you thought he barely beat de la Hoya, you don't know boxing. And he beat a de la Hoya who was arguably the top 154 lber at the time at 154. He also beat Baldomir, who was lineal welterweight champ.

Pac won a lineal title at flyweight yes. But, he never fought Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson, who was considered the best in that division. He won a paper title at 122 and never fought lineal champ Paulie Ayala, nor top fighters in what was probably the best division in boxign such as "Bone" Adams, Vazquez, Tapia, or Larios (he later fought Larios at 130.) His signature win IMO is the first Barerra fight, who was lineal featherweight champ at then P4P #3. He had the close calls with JMM, and most felt he lost at least one of those. His trilogy with Morales is meaningless. That trilogy happen smack in the middle of a 1-5 streak for Morales. And Pac's wins over Morales are sandwched in between Morales being outclassed by a C Class fighter in Zahir Raheem and losing convincingly to another C Class fighter in David Diaz. Pac won the paper belt at lightweight against the C Class Diaz skipping lineal champ Casamayor and top contenders such as Nate Campbell (who held three ABC belts) and Juan Diaz. Yes, he beat Hatton and de la Hoya more convincingly than Mayweather. But, he also fought them a year and a half later. De la Hoya looked bad in his previous fight to "2 Pound" Forbes and Hatton was nearyl KO'd byJuan Lazcano. And Pac has the welterweight wins over P4P elite Cotto and solid contender Clottey. If you look at those two resumes, I don't see how one is far and away better than the other.

[Pacquiao'd]

Pac has made it known that HE WILL COMPLY WITH THE TEST with the originaly 14day cutoff.. TRUST ME, the word is out there in the boxing community.. Now if Floyd comes back and says NOPE, THAT OFFERS GONE.. Well, all Pac can do is say WE TRIED... NUFF SAID...

******, i swear. theres no original anything. the offer came off the table when he walked away from the fight. secondly, floyd stated it.

how can you agree to something that doesnt exist? *******ed

[SluggerFan]

@JayPro, somebody stated I didn't know boxing and that a drug dealer never stole from me. My response was to clarify a drug dealer has stolen from me. But you are right, we all on here trying to make my point. And the bottom line is, everyone loses if the fight don't get made. Mayweather lose's because he can't make $40 million fighting anyone else (which his debts are all paid from Mosley but he is still broke), Manny doesn't get $40 million either (but he doesn't need it) and we don't get to find out who the best fighter is (it can only be settled in the ring). Bottom line is Manny is putting himself out there stating a 50-50 purse with a 14-day cutoff drug testing date and the fight is on. Sounds fair when the world is divided 50-50 on who the better fighter is...

[Young Herschel]

If Mayweather and Pacquaio were to agree to do an event together, they would be business partners. I don't know about you, but i want to know that anyone I'm going into business with, especially concerning an amount of money that means something to me, is not using illegal drugs. So part of my agreement with by partner would be that we submit to drug testing, and have the right to request it from each other at any time. That's just me. I don't want to do business with an illegal drug user who could be reckless and ruin money that means something to me.

BTW, a fighter's credintials have nothing to do with negotiations. Mayweather's resume is equal to or better than Pac's. So we're talking about two superstars. Oh yeah, if you've been watching boxing for any amount of time you'd know that Pac's "titles" at 122, lightweight, and welterweight were and are jokes.

I like your business venture analogy here. The wild card in these negoiations will be the power-brokers from HBO who will have the contractual rights to broadcast and replay this PPV mega-fight. If it all comes down to $$, then I believe that Mayweather will have to meet Pacquaio in the middle, provided that his 14-day concession is genuine. I beleive that 10 days out would be accceptable to the HBO excutives; it is a more restrictive deal than the former offer which was REJECTED by Team Pacquaio at the beginning of 2010.

Team Mayweather has to get this concession because no legal mind worth his salt would negotiate off of that 14-day window which was allowed to lapse or, given the express statements of Team Paqcuio outright rejected.

The deal will be a 50/50 split, clean and simple with a 10 day OST cut-off: per HBO wishes. 10 days is a duration of time which is commonly accepted in the field of law for its objective reasonableness. If Team Pacquiao can work with 14 days then it is reasonable for them to accept 10 days as well if that will seal the deal.

[Pacquiao'd]

Mayweaher had a controversal decision of Castillo in thefirst fight yes. He pretty much cleared that up in the rematc, Genaro Hernandez was undefeated at 130, lineal champ, and his only defeat was against a P4P elite (de la Hoya) in a bid got a lightweight belt. And Mayweather destroyed him in his 18th pro fight. Mayweather destroyed Chico, who was undefeated and a P4P elite. He had the two fights with Castillo, who wasl lineal lightweight champ and a P4P elite. He destroyed Hatton, who was undefeated and a P4P elite. He dismantled JMM, who was the then P4P #2. He dismantled Mosley, who was the then P4P #3. if you thought he barely beat de la Hoya, you don't know boxing. And he beat a de la Hoya who was arguably the top 154 lber at the time at 154. He also beat Baldomir, who was lineal welterweight champ.

Pac won a lineal title at flyweight yes. But, he never fought Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson, who was considered the best in that division. He won a paper title at 122 and never fought lineal champ Paulie Ayala, nor top fighters in what was probably the best division in boxign such as "Bone" Adams, Vazquez, Tapia, or Larios (he later fought Larios at 130.) His signature win IMO is the first Barerra fight, who was lineal featherweight champ at then P4P #3. He had the close calls with JMM, and most felt he lost at least one of those. His trilogy with Morales is meaningless. That trilogy happen smack in the middle of a 1-5 streak for Morales. And Pac's wins over Morales are sandwched in between Morales being outclassed by a C Class fighter in Zahir Raheem and losing convincingly to another C Class fighter in David Diaz. Pac won the paper belt at lightweight against the C Class Diaz skipping lineal champ Casamayor and top contenders such as Nate Campbell (who held three ABC belts) and Juan Diaz. Yes, he beat Hatton and de la Hoya more convincingly than Mayweather. But, he also fought them a year and a half later. De la Hoya looked bad in his previous fight to "2 Pound" Forbes and Hatton was nearyl KO'd byJuan Lazcano. And Pac has the welterweight wins over P4P elite Cotto and solid contender Clottey. If you look at those two resumes, I don't see how one is far and away better than the other.

people are so busy trying to use names as a way to validate pacs resume, its comedic.

pownage right here, good post.

floyds resume>>>pacs

[flint]

pacquiao is either on drugs or he's a complete idiot if he thinks mayweather fears him.

[hitking]

Mosley didnt quit.. but he surely wasnt 100% going into that fight and was rarely tagged to during the 2nd to make it seem like FLOYD was whooping his ass. SHANE put his whole training camp into that 1 round.. THATS IT...

Cotto on the other hand was beat down LITERALLY..

You're doing the same thing to Mayweather what some Pacquaio haters have tried to do to some of his wins. No one was making excuses for de la Hoya prior to fighting Pac. But after Pac whips his ass, they're trying to sat de la Hoya was dehydrated. That's bull****. Everyone thought de la Hoya was gonna destroy Pac. Just because we don't get the result we thought doesn't mean its time to start making excuses. The fact is, heading into Mayweather-Mosley, most felt it was the either the #1 or #2 P4P fighter in the world fighting the #3 P4P fighter in the world. Everything that happen to Mosley in that fight I credit to Mayweather. Just like everything that happen to de la Hoya I credit Pac. Hell, people were saying Cotto was ruined from the plaster. But you don't seem to want to take any credit away from Pac's win. Why are you trying to take away from Money's?