Pacquiao agrees: "Let's see if drug testing is really the Reason"

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which fights did he come overweight?

Rustico Torrecampo
Medgoen Singsurat

The 2 fights that he got KTFO in.

[fcastro1]

You are saying Floyd fans are ridiculous, but u are misrepresenting the facts. Pac and Co. orginally agreed to full OSDT. Then it changed.

1. Afraid of Needles
2. He is superstisious
3. Giving blood made him weak
4. He doesnt need Floyd
5 Agreed to 30 days
6.Once proven he took the a blood test with Hatton closer than 30 days, he changed it to 24 days.

Freddie has said that Pac could take the test 5 days b4"no problem". Then within a wk. Then all of the sudden, it changed and he says that HE is keeping Pac from taking the test.

Floyd came from 0 to 14 in the original negotiations. Pac came from 0 to 5 to 7 to 30 to 24 days and didn't budge from there. Floyd met 1/2 way. Pac went back on what he said backtracked and made excuses. Pac waited until AFTER Floyd said that the offer is off the table to agree. Why is that? So floyd if doesn't take it now, he is doesn't want the fight? Does that mean that Pac didn't want the fight b4?

to my knowledge pac never agreed to osts all the way to the fight and he has always gave one reason, he doesn't want it close to the fight because he feels it weakens him reaching back to the morales fight. People speak for pac all the time when pacs on the other side of the globe, it does not mean its true. regardless whether the 14 days is of the table or not its till the best compromise for both fighters. If it was good for floyd before then why shouldn't it be now. negotiations is about 2 parties agreeing to a middle ground in negotiations, so how is 24 days to 0 fair. Do you wants floyd to have it all his own way?

[QADASHBANYAH1]

wait what was the cut off date for mosley/floyd again? 18 days in case you forgot!!!

There was no cut off date for floyd vs mosley.

USADA just picks "random" dates, you could end up not being tested 20 days before the fight, or you might get tested the day before the fight, remember shane and floyd did RANDOM testing. They never knew when testing was over. This is the only true way to prevent juicing. I think they were tested 18 days before the fight, but that was not the clause. I thought I read that on this site somewhere.

Plus floyd was tested right after the fight as well.

[fcastro1]

1. It wasn't above the WW limit.
2. How is it cheating if Marquez agreed to sign the contract?

Do you call it cheating when they pressured Cotto into taking a catch weight for his title belt, when he clearly didn't want to?

he broke the contract weight limit. How is that not cheating. i swear floyd fans defend this mans every action. Like its o.k to use xycolane because its legal in one state, then they complain about the leniant rules in the commission.

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he paid the penalty bro, if you don't do anything wrong you don't pay penalty.but let's get over the past and support to see this fight.pls!

Pac paid a penalty too although it wasn't a monetary one.

1st time, he had to wear heavier gloves and got knocked out. Penalty #1
2nd time, he lost his title on the scales AND got knocked out Penalty #2

Whether it was monetary or not, they both "paid" a penalty. So enough about FLOYD having a history of coming in overweight. He has never come in over the limit for his weight class, Pac has.

[V.WEBB]

he broke the contract weight limit. How is that not cheating. i swear floyd fans defend this mans every action. Like its o.k to use xycolane because its legal in one state, then they complain about the leniant rules in the commission.

One state?

As of February 17th 2010, Xylocaine is not banned according to the FDA, USADA, WADA, and the NSAC. In fact, I can’t find any other State Athletic Commission that bans it either. So, Floyd Mayweather’s use of this drug for his hands is not illegal. And, as long as he doesn’t use it from the weigh-in through fight day, then he won’t get into any trouble. However, this doesn’t mean that this drug is still safe or something that the general public should just go out and acquire.

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he broke the contract weight limit. How is that not cheating. i swear floyd fans defend this mans every action. Like its o.k to use xycolane because its legal in one state, then they complain about the leniant rules in the commission.

Because if the contract is changed, and agreed to, then its not cheating. Its and agreement that has changed. What is so hard to understand about that. I'm not saying it was ETHICAL...but that is another matter. I'm just saying it wasn't cheating if its agreed to.

If floyd is wrong, i will call him on it. Right is right and wrong is wrong, no matter who it is.

[fcastro1]

One state?

coach web do you think using xycolain is right?

[V.WEBB]

coach web do you think using xycolain is right?

Its not about rather I think its right or not. Its legal. Football players (I played ball), are able to take cortisone shots before a game to kill their pain and go hit people and not get hurt and it is perfectly legal. Its a painkiller.

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to my knowledge pac never agreed to osts all the way to the fight and he has always gave one reason, he doesn't want it close to the fight because he feels it weakens him reaching back to the morales fight. People speak for pac all the time when pacs on the other side of the globe, it does not mean its true. regardless whether the 14 days is of the table or not its till the best compromise for both fighters. If it was good for floyd before then why shouldn't it be now. negotiations is about 2 parties agreeing to a middle ground in negotiations, so how is 24 days to 0 fair. Do you wants floyd to have it all his own way?

Well, I never saw the contract(no one i know of has), but freddie said that they agreed to it. So, maybe he was lying again. He has been doing alot of that lately. Too close to the fight? So why not 5 days..when ur not training hard anymore. Wouldn't that have been a great time? Come on..ur saying that Floyd fans will agree with anything, but u take Pac's side on that excuse(not to mention there were 100 b4 that one). Pac also gave about 5 other excuses why he lost the Morales fight.

This is the only problem that I have w/ that 14 day argument. B4, when Floyd was offering it..going from 0 to 14 days..he was the "coward" "ducker" and everything else in the book. Pac moves on and Floyd takes it off the table. NOW, Pac agrees to it, and he is negotiating and finding a middle groud. Well, wasn't that what Floyd was doing b4? Why was he a coward and a ducker b4 and now Pac is the Negotiator. Were u calling Pac a coward b4 for all the excuses coming out of his camp and for him not negotiating?

With all that said...I think floyd should just take the 14 days. That, we agree on.