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First of all Roy had no jab, because if he would have with his fast hands he would still be revelant in the game today. A job wouldve helped him against johnson and tarver. He isnt a complete fighter who is versatile. While he had all his speed and athleticism he was a monster to deal with but once that was gone he was very average unlike bernard and floyd. Manny will suffer a similar fate if he stays around after he starts to slow down because with out defense and a good jab and defense you are more subeptable to quicker fighters. Where as a fighter like Marquez who isnt as fast as Pac gave him fits with defense timing and good counter shots.
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