Middleweight Battle: Nunn vs. Eubank

[JUYJUY]

Pre-Toney Nunn outboxes Eubank to a 12 round unanimous decision. At 168, Eubank drops Nunn once and wins a close decision.

Why not the Nunn who fought Toney? He boxed Toney's head off for 11 rounds and was lb4lb #1 before one lucky punch wrecked him. It was a big upset. To be honest, Nunn was the best fighter of his era before drugs got to him between the Kalambay and Toney fights.. a powerful right jab and a wicked counter left hand - not to mention smoothness, stamina and some speed all combined.
BUT this is Eubank we're talking about, he was a one-off because of his unlimitedness! He always seemed to have reserve if needed(which it was rarely needed anyway). So, I'd just have to pick Eubank to dig deep and get the win.

[oldgringo]

Why not the Nunn who fought Toney? He boxed Toney's head off for 11 rounds and was lb4lb #1 before one lucky punch wrecked him. It was a big upset. To be honest, Nunn was the best fighter of his era before drugs got to him between the Kalambay and Toney fights.. a powerful right jab and a wicked counter left hand - not to mention smoothness, stamina and some speed all combined.
BUT this is Eubank we're talking about, he was a one-off because of his unlimitedness! He always seemed to have reserve if needed(which it was rarely needed anyway). So, I'd just have to pick Eubank to dig deep and get the win.

Toney is a better fighter than Eubank...and he didn't just land one lucky punch you idiot. In fact, if you need to watch that fight over again i'll upload it on this thread just to expose your dumbass.

Toney landed good bodyshots early in the fight to slow Nunn down later in the fight. In the 9th round, the momentum COMPLETELY shifted to Toneys favor and he started landing the cleaner, harder power shots.

In the 10th round he completely dominated and had Nunn weary when he went back to his corner. In the 11th round Toney set him up with a hard uppercut and a couple of jabs. At this time he landed a HUGE right hook, that basically had Nunn out on his feet, and then followed up with an even HUGER left hook that put Nunn down for the second time in his career. Then Toney finished him off with ease and became the best middleweight in the world for that time.

Seriously, if you argue with anything I just wrote then you're wrong and I'll post the fight just so people can see that you're a fraudulent poster with 0 credibility.

The Nunn that fought Toney would have beaten Eubank, but I don't think that any form of Nunn after that fight would have.

[JUYJUY]

Toney is a better fighter than Eubank...and he didn't just land one lucky punch you idiot. In fact, if you need to watch that fight over again i'll upload it on this thread just to expose your dumbass.

Toney landed good bodyshots early in the fight to slow Nunn down later in the fight. In the 9th round, the momentum COMPLETELY shifted to Toneys favor and he started landing the cleaner, harder power shots.

In the 10th round he completely dominated and had Nunn weary when he went back to his corner. In the 11th round Toney set him up with a hard uppercut and a couple of jabs. At this time he landed a HUGE right hook, that basically had Nunn out on his feet, and then followed up with an even HUGER left hook that put Nunn down for the second time in his career. Then Toney finished him off with ease and became the best middleweight in the world for that time.

Seriously, if you argue with anything I just wrote then you're wrong and I'll post the fight just so people can see that you're a fraudulent poster with 0 credibility.

The Nunn that fought Toney would have beaten Eubank, but I don't think that any form of Nunn after that fight would have.

Toney was not beating Nunn and nobody gave him a chance before the fight, Toney was behind on all three scorecards by a distance. Toney is a more consistent fighter than Eubank, but Eubank had more potential and was more interesting. Basically, Toney did his best whereas Eubank didn't! - that's what made/makes Eubank so interesting..

[oldgringo]

Toney was not beating Nunn and nobody gave him a chance before the fight, Toney was behind on all three scorecards by a distance. Toney is a more consistent fighter than Eubank, but Eubank had more potential and was more interesting. Basically, Toney did his best whereas Eubank didn't! - that's what made/makes Eubank so interesting..

No **** Toney was behind on the scorecards and was being outboxed for 8 rounds. You aren't telling me anything new here.

Toney has WAY more potential and talent than Eubank does, and he's maybe one of the most inconsistant and unmotivated fighters ever. If Toney had the discipline of Rocky Marciano or Julio Cesar Chavez he would have been one of the 30 greatest fighters ever.

Eubank was more interesting to YOU...thats because you have a raging hard-on for him. Toney's career has been much more interesting. From being a huge underdog against Nunn and KOing him late in the fight...to losing a lopsided decision against Roy Jones and falling into seclusion...to beating the Cruiserweight and winning the FOTY award in 2003...to dominating every Heavyweight fight he's been in. Toney has done it all and your outrageous claims that Eubank had more potential/had a more interesting career are asinine.

[JUYJUY]

No **** Toney was behind on the scorecards and was being outboxed for 8 rounds. You aren't telling me anything new here.

Toney has WAY more potential and talent than Eubank does, and he's maybe one of the most inconsistant and unmotivated fighters ever. If Toney had the discipline of Rocky Marciano or Julio Cesar Chavez he would have been one of the 30 greatest fighters ever.

Eubank was more interesting to YOU...thats because you have a raging hard-on for him. Toney's career has been much more interesting. From being a huge underdog against Nunn and KOing him late in the fight...to losing a lopsided decision against Roy Jones and falling into seclusion...to beating the Cruiserweight and winning the FOTY award in 2003...to dominating every Heavyweight fight he's been in. Toney has done it all and your outrageous claims that Eubank had more potential/had a more interesting career are asinine.

I'm not even going to bother replying to that. A bunch of yabbering bull**** yet again. Don't you ever give up?

[JUYJUY]

I think it's best you leave this forum now, it's gone too far.

[oldgringo]

I'm not even going to bother replying to that. A bunch of yabbering bull**** yet again. Don't you ever give up?

What part of it is yabbering bull****? It's common knowledge that Toney is one of the most unconsistant and unmotivated fighters in the sport...and we can poll this site to prove me right if you want to.

It's also common knowledge to ANYONE who doesn't have a raging Eubank or UK fighter hard-on that James Toney is one of the most naturally skilled fighters EVER. We can poll the site to see what people think about that too if you want ****face.

Toney was a better fighter than Eubank and has had a better career. Learn to accept it.

[Super Cruiserweight]

eubanks may of had more potential and talent than Toney but Toney is the one who actualy applied it to his boxing and boxed better and JT is the one who will be remembered as an alltime great in the US not eubanks(infact Eubanks wont even be remembered at all over here and its the US and the world that counts not just UK!!)

JT has had his shakey performances (Tiberi) but hes also had his great performances (Nunn comeback,showing better work than Mccallum in their second and third fights,Barkley,prince charles williams,Littles,Jirov). Eubanks has beat Benn,Watson comeback in second fight,and was the first man to beat Rocky(in Germany!) but thats his only great performances that im aware of compared to JTs many.

If Eubanks fought Toney after RJ he would of won cos Eubanks is better than Griffin and Griffin beat JT in JTs next fight after RJ.but if they fought at middle or super middle(before RJ) expect a boring fight w/ Toney much more likely to get the decision cos Eubanks wont be able ko Toney,JT has barely ever been rocked let alone Kod!

[JUYJUY]

Eubank was Much more interesting than Toney, are you mad?? If you knew anything about him you'd say the same, the guy is mad and leaves people in fits of laughter with the **** that comes out of his mouth and the way he speaks. Everybody in Britain knows who Chris Eubank is, not just boxing people I mean Everybody. He's one of the most well-known celebrities in Britain because he's so eccentric. The guy wears monocles, bowler hats, £100,000 suits, horse-riding jodhpurs, carries a cane, rides a Harley Davidson around London, owns the biggest truck in Europe and has recieved over 100 parking tickets due to the size of it. He's in the papers all the time, on the TV all the time. He's a much bigger name than James Toney could ever dream of becoming!

Eubank was the ORIGINATOR of true boxing arena entry, did Toney have his charisma?? No, he didn't. Eubank is a truly incredible man, Toney isn't.

Not only is Chris a very interested man, but he was a very interesting boxer. His style was strange as ****! And he's the Only boxer who held back on his opponents in every ****ing fight!

[JUYJUY]

eubanks may of had more potential and talent than Toney but Toney is the one who actualy applied it to his boxing and boxed better and JT is the one who will be remembered as an alltime great in the US not eubanks(infact Eubanks wont even be remembered at all over here and its the US and the world that counts not just UK!!)

JT has had his shakey performances (Tiberi) but hes also had his great performances (Nunn comeback,showing better work than Mccallum in their second and third fights,Barkley,prince charles williams,Littles,Jirov). Eubanks has beat Benn,Watson comeback in second fight,and was the first man to beat Rocky(in Germany!) but thats his only great performances that im aware of compared to JTs many.

If Eubanks fought Toney after RJ he would of won cos Eubanks is better than Griffin and Griffin beat JT in JTs next fight after RJ.but if they fought at middle or super middle(before RJ) expect a boring fight w/ Toney much more likely to get the decision cos Eubanks wont be able ko Toney,JT has barely ever been rocked let alone Kod!

Nobody knows who James Toney is in Britain and never will.

Nunn was clearly beating Toney. McCallum beat Toney twice. Barkley was totally 'shot it'. Charles Williams was a Light-Heavyweight making 168. Tim Littles lost to Eubank in 1984 as an amateur and never truly made it in the pro's.

If Eubank fought Toney the night that Roy Jones fought Toney, Eubank wins every single time. Toney was weighing 220lbs just 6 weeks before the Jones fight and had to get down 168!