Was prince naseem past prime when he fought MAB?

[IMDAZED]

This is why I put Barrera in front of JMM and Morales in the all time rankings between those three. It's because if his great boxing skill and intelligence.

Even though I have to say, JMM is creeping to the top of that list and might be there when it's all said and done.

I don't think Marquez ever reaches the level of the other two. Right now, he's a borderline HOF'er IMO whereas Barrera and Morales are ATGs. I don't know if it's my own bias but I rank El Terrible higher than Barrera. Zaragoza, Chavez, In-Jin Choo, Pacquiao, the list goes on. Love his resume but again, I may be being biased.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

I don't think Marquez ever reaches the level of the other two. Right now, he's a borderline HOF'er IMO whereas Barrera and Morales are ATGs. I don't know if it's my own bias but I rank El Terrible higher than Barrera. Zaragoza, Chavez, In-Jin Choo, Pacquiao, the list goes on. Love his resume but again, I may be being biased.

I can't argue with that, I just think that JMM performance against Pac is something that needs to be looked at. IMO I thought he won the second fight.

I think Morales gets the nod because of his style, he was easy to root for because he was such a gangster.

I just think pure boxing ability, Barrera was above those other two. He was such a technician in the ring and showed so many different styles against different fighters. Not to mention the dude was on his way to becoming a lawyer in Mexico, came from a rich family and gave all that up to fight.

[IMDAZED]

I can't argue with that, I just think that JMM performance against Pac is something that needs to be looked at. IMO I thought he won the second fight.

I think Morales gets the nod because of his style, he was easy to root for because he was such a gangster.

I just think pure boxing ability, Barrera was above those other two. He was such a technician in the ring and showed so many different styles against different fighters. Not to mention the dude was on his way to becoming a lawyer in Mexico, came from a rich family and gave all that up to fight.

I hear you on Marquez - I guess the reason I rank Morales higher than the others is because of his last-gasp, brilliant performance against Pac the first time. But I can't argue with anyone who has Barrera higher. I remember Barrera looking lethargic as hell against some guy named Valbuena--it was then that Hamed all of a sudden was very eager to fight him. With all the paperwork signed, Barrera took that tune-up bout against Jesus Salud. In retrospect, listening to Hamed trainer Manny Steward call the bout (and his expression afterwards), he knew damn well his charge was about to get his butt whooped.

[NECK SNAPPER]

No not past his prime more like past skill level
but very entertaining loved to entrances guy was good for boxing

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Manny Steward was the worst possible trainer for Naz. He actually had Oscar Suarez as a co-trainer. It was a shambles, they used to switch who gave advice between rounds.

[IMDAZED]

Manny Steward was the worst possible trainer for Naz. He actually had Oscar Suarez as a co-trainer. It was a shambles, they used to switch who gave advice between rounds.

Oscar Suarez was the worst possible trainer. Manny was #2.

[John Hue]

Naz was in his physical prime but was not right in the head and became very complacent and it showed in the Barrera fight. He did not train properly giving his opponents enough respect. Much of his mind set was based on confidence where he knew he could rely on his his freakish power to win him through. That was OK when he out matched his opponents but when they were close to him ability wise his flaws in his make up were destined to show.
IMO we never saw the full potential of Hamed because his ego got in the way and he did not apply himself to the craft of boxing and relied on his innate talent.

[venom1]

YUP, from one of the greatest boxers ever down to a fat guy who you wouldn't recognise is a pretty sad downward spiral i saw a picture of him in the paper a few months ago and also at one Aamir Khans fight vs Kotelnik dammmnn have the tides changed.

[KillerRightHook]

He was past his prime by a way, he didnt take his training as seriously at this point and thought more than ever he was unbeatable, now dont get me wrong I think MAB beats any version of Naz but this definatly wasnt the same Naz as he used to be.

True, in 1997 Naz called Barrera out when he was at his very best but Barrera ducked him. Not saying he would have beat Barrera but the Naz that fought Barrera in 2001 was washed up in terms of He fell in love with his power and took training as a joke. Watch the documentory for that fight.

Naz just lost that enthusiasm he had earlier in his career when he trained properly and fought his best. The Naz that KO'd Daniel Alicea and beat Tom Johnson would have given Barrera a whole lot of problems.

Still he didnt make the most of his career. Just like Mike Tyson's upset against Carl Douglas in 1990.

[BetterCallSaul]

He was in his prime. He just didn't train for the fight against Barrera. He wasn't focused on boxing at that point, and had already made huge amounts of money.