Why does Fernando Vargas hate on Victor Ortiz??

[Junito-Rulez]

Fck em the fat fck.Victor needs to say something back,and stop
acting like a *****.

I like that.


I have nothing bad to say about Fernando's career. He was a talented, skilled warrior who's as mexican as any mexican ATG. No bull****, never ducked, never quit,etc.. well i forgot he was also a steroid user but still he was a hell of a fighter.

He's jealous of Victor Ortiz, Ortiz should retaliate back.

[catalinul]

Nah dawgy.....we wont.....why would we talk about a no body???? ya hurd? ahahha

Dude but in all seriousness or wut not....why you salt??? what exactly did I say that makes you think I hate on Fernie???

I mean look at this.......you made this thread asking people(who wouldn't have from where to know) why does he hate Victor without anything as proof as to show he does.
I mean if he would have been coming out with quotes like Malignaggi and Roach all up in the press saying **** to and about Ortiz I'd understand but that's not the case.
Only thing he said was that thing on ustream which was just answering a question and giving his opinion,I don't see the problem.

[Chuckguy]

Vargas is a big fat hater. why does he care about Ortiz? Ortiz just happens to live in the nard. Last I heard he trains out of Ventura now.Ortiz made it clear that he does not rep Oxnard...he just trained there for a while. Maybe he hates him cuz of Ortiz trainer split from his brother and Father who trained Vargas...who cares. Vargas fat ass left to Vegas cuz he is broke. La Calonia boys taxed his ass!

So he doesnt live in camarillo anymore???

[extracurRICular]

I mean look at this.......you made this thread asking people(who wouldn't have from where to know) why does he hate Victor without anything as proof as to show he does.
I mean if he would have been coming out with quotes like Malignaggi and Roach all up in the press saying **** to and about Ortiz I'd understand but that's not the case.
Only thing he said was that thing on ustream which was just answering a question and giving his opinion,I don't see the problem.

See that's jus it....there is no problem.....you try to find something thats not there....Im not saying there is problem.....all im saying is Vargas hates on Oritz....that doesn't mean he literally hates him....your thinking hate like Hittler hated ***s....hahhaha......nah dawgy "hates on Oritz" means he is a playa hater...he is jealous...and based on his actions round town it sure looks like its true....but even that is not a problem....not for me at least....some people just like to drink Hateraid.....if Fernie is like that more power to him....as a matter of fact if he runs out of people to hate on....he can feel free....to hate on me...I need one more hater by this summer so I can have 15.....hahhahhaa

[extracurRICular]

I like that.


I have nothing bad to say about Fernando's career. He was a talented, skilled warrior who's as mexican as any mexican ATG. No bull****, never ducked, never quit,etc.. well i forgot he was also a steroid user but still he was a hell of a fighter.

He's jealous of Victor Ortiz, Ortiz should retaliate back.

He sure was a warrior....no one can ever dispute that!!!

[Dynamite Kid]

*** Vargas, he got knocked out by 3 Welterweights and got a Boxing lesson from Ricardo Mayorga LMAO!

War! Vic, Vic is a classy kid with talent.

[extracurRICular]

*** Vargas, he got knocked out by 3 Welterweights and got a Boxing lesson from Ricardo Mayorga LMAO!

War! Vic, Vic is a classy kid with talent.

Vic O is legit....he is just gonna have to work reeeeeeeeeeeeal hard to make us all forget about him quitting.....

[BROOKLYN CESAR]

Fernie keeps talking **** bout Vic O......I think Fernie is hella jealous of this new kat on the block.....the talk now a days round here (I live in Da Ox) is all bout Vic O.....and its like Fern who???? jealousy is a biatch no lie....you would think Fernie would be there to mentor and help out this new kat.....but he is acting like a jealous whore....true story!!! wouldn't you be there for a fellow Mexican fighter coming up the ranks fighting out of your town???

Everyone knows Fernando use to mentor this little chump and that this chump was a big fan of fernandos!!! He dressed like Fernando walked like Fernando went to the same gym just to show everyone he was like fernando!!!

Then he goes out like a coward something fernando would never ever do die trying die like a man is the Aztec Warriors way not run and live to run again!!!

plus lets not forget he went running to fernandos worst enemy Gayla Hoya!!!

*** this chump Oxnard Badass my arse!!!

[Dynamite Kid]

Vic O is legit....he is just gonna have to work reeeeeeeeeeeeal hard to make us all forget about him quitting.....

I dont hold it against him and am willing to give him a second chance.

Bert Cooper quit before, now i would NEVER question that mans heart, not after the wars he has been in, Mercer, Holy, Moorer, Tillman.

[catalinul]

See that's jus it....there is no problem.....you try to find something thats not there....Im not saying there is problem.....all im saying is Vargas hates on Oritz....that doesn't mean he literally hates him....your thinking hate like Hittler hated ***s....hahhaha......nah dawgy "hates on Oritz" means he is a playa hater...he is jealous...and based on his actions round town it sure looks like its true....but even that is not a problem....not for me at least....some people just like to drink Hateraid.....if Fernie is like that more power to him....as a matter of fact if he runs out of people to hate on....he can feel free....to hate on me...I need one more hater by this summer so I can have 15.....hahhahhaa

I doubt he hates on or Ortiz tbh.

As long as he doesn't come public and say stuff like other guys have then that's not hate to me.
I ''hate'' a neighbour of mine but I don't tell anybody else and no one knows,maybe it's better,maybe not.
Only reason this thing was brought up was because Vargas was asked by some dude after Ortiz quit if the Oxnard boys are losing they're gut and are not like him and he said ''No,it's not true,Victor ain't from here,he's from Kansas and looking how he quit I don't know if he's gonna comeback'' and then gave an example as how after he quit once Yori Boy Campas found it easy to quit again.
That to me is not hating.People just like to blow things out of proportion.