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  • Doctor_Tenma
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    #71
    Originally posted by Kilrain
    Easy for IMDAZED to say who cares about slander, it wasn't his professional reputation being dragged through the mud by Mayweather/others. Imagine if you are a hard working fighter who trains his butt off in the gym toward titles in seven weight classes, becoming a multimillionare superstar from humble third world roots and suddenly you are constantly called a drug cheat by neurotics like Floyd snr and Roger. Oh but 'who cares about slander'. Ignorant
    He cares so much about slander that Paulie became a possibility huh? Does that make any sense? Pacquiao is tarnishing his own legacy, wake up.

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    • pistol whip
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      #72
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      We won't add it on because you aren't Manny Pacquiao. Manny Pacquiao has enough BS and lies to stand for itself. That's all, brother.
      Well whatever but you will never convince me that manny is the only responsiable party here because as I said before if Floyd caved in tomarrow the fight would be on and thats all I care about. I don't care if Manny takes the test or not because I wouldn't be disapointed if he does becasue I would actually be extatic if he did. manny taking the test would mean that the fight is happening and to me thats the bottom line. But you on the other hand would probably cry yourself to sleep if Floyd caved in and said "*** the test I just wanna fight". Again you seem more intrested in Floyd winning the argument on the blood test than you do about his prospects of beating Pac in an actual fight.


      It's kinda sad because it's not like anyone is gonna pay 60$ to watch manny and Pac take a blood test.

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      • DR.ORGYY
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        #73
        Sure man........

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        • Twako
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          #74
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          The commish is irrelevant. Pacquiao doesn't let them do their job either so that's no excuse.

          And 25 days isn't a compromise. You don't compromise random tests by making them un-random. That's a not a compromise. Well, in a way it is because it compromises the whole point of testing.
          lol you can say the same thing about floyd since he re-negotiated for 14days. the extra tests became a battle of egos in the end, something pac wasn't originally mandated to do and couldve said NO to right away.

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          • Kilrain
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            #75
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            It's easy for me to say because the accusations didn't stop Manny from negotiating. So why do they matter? If it didn't stop him from sitting down, and AGREEING to OST, why is it relevant? Think.
            Originally posted by thatnickuh
            The same way that Pacquiao let the commission do their job by requesting a stiffer weight penalty? You people just repeat the same nonsense over and over regardless of how silly it is.
            There's a big difference here.

            First of all, Floyd can comfortably make 147 so the whole '10 Mill per pound' thing is really a moot point. Because Floyd can make 147. Manny just didn't want Floyd (who is already bigger) pulling some **** like he did with Marquez and paying a token sum (something like 600k is peanuts to Floyd). The penalty was simply to ensure Floyd didn't pull that ****, everyone acts like it's a big inconveinance and similar to FLoyd asking Pac to take unprecedented random blood tests, which have weakened him in the past.

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            • IMDAZED
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              #76
              Originally posted by Kilrain
              When did he agree to be randomly tested? The whole reason the fight fell apart was because of a disagreement on the cut off date/testing protocol. Yes he was trying to negotiate, but obviously he is pissed that his rep was bismerched hence the lawsuit
              He agreed when it was first introduced. In turn, he then requested a weight penalty. And Mayweather agreed. Then...weeks later...

              He wanted them to change the # of blood tests.

              Mayweather agreed.

              Then...days later...

              He wanted to change the cutoff date for testing.

              Those two requests un-randomized the testing. It's simple. His rep was already being hsot at before all this. But he shot himself in the foot with these requests. And that's the bottom line. So it kills me when I see guys like you pretend Floyd Sr was the issue when the real issue was Pacquiao avoiding any real tests and making lies about it. How come you're not mentioning that? Huh?

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                #77
                Originally posted by Twako
                lol you can say the same thing about floyd since he re-negotiated for 14days. the extra tests became a battle of egos in the end, something pac wasn't originally mandated to do and couldve said NO to right away.
                But he didn't. Instead he lied and lied.

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                • pistol whip
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                  As a Boxing fan, I want an even playing field
                  And where were your cries for this before Floyd made this his new pet project? Steroids have been around for a long time but as soon floyd opened his mouth suddenly your an advocate?

                  This is exactly why Floyd had to drum up rumors about Pac first then he asked for the tests. You are the perfect example!!

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by pistol whip
                    Well whatever but you will never convince me that manny is the only responsiable party here because as I said before if Floyd caved in tomarrow the fight would be on and thats all I care about. I don't care if Manny takes the test or not because I wouldn't be disapointed if he does becasue I would actually be extatic if he did. manny taking the test would mean that the fight is happening and to me thats the bottom line. But you on the other hand would probably cry yourself to sleep if Floyd caved in and said "*** the test I just wanna fight". Again you seem more intrested in Floyd winning the argument on the blood test than you do about his prospects of beating Pac in an actual fight.


                    It's kinda sad because it's not like anyone is gonna pay 60$ to watch manny and Pac take a blood test.
                    I don't care about who is responsible. I care that one of the top athletes in my sport has cowered away from stringent testing and then repeatedly lied to the public. These are alarming signs.

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                    • thatnickuh
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by pistol whip
                      Well whatever but you will never convince me that manny is the only responsiable party here because as I said before if Floyd caved in tomarrow the fight would be on and thats all I care about.
                      Just because you've convinced yourself to believe this doesn't mean that it's true. If Mayweather were to drop the stricter drug testing demands then Team Pacquiao would just find something else to use as a reason to walk away.

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