Freddie Roach needs to just admit they're scared of Floyd!

[Kilrain]

No, dude it's you. Mark McGwire broke a HR record. Alex Rodriguez was, pound for pound, the best hitter in the game. Barry Bonds broke a HR record.

The first name was rumored about but there was no PROOF. We found out years later.

Same with the second guy.

The third guy blatantly denied all the evidence swirling around him.

Time, my friend, is the best prophet.

The point is not moot, it obviously flew over your head. I didn't ask you to justify Pacquiao's weight penalty request. His reasoning behind making the request doesn't matter. The point is that Pacquiao made a request that went beyond the commission's standard rules. You chastising Mayweather and not Pacquiao for going over the commission instead of "letting them do their job" makes you a hypocrite. This isn't rocket science here man. Do you even know what a "double standard" is?

No you missed my point, which was

that you are acting as if Floyd asking Manny to take unprecedented random drug tests up until the fight and Manny making sure Floyd doesn't come in overweight for an advantage as the same thing which is utter nonsense and if you don't know that you're moronic.

I already suggested that if Floyd wants OSDT he should appeal to the Commish. He can't just impose it on Pacquiao, because it is unprecedented and Manny does not need to succumb to Floyd's huge ego. If Floyd wants to fight under Commission rules, the fight would be made.

[V.WEBB]

Another classic,

Pacquiao: Giving blood is a disadvantage to me because he's bigger then me, and I ummm, I'm smaller then him.

Man, this one really took me back!

[V.WEBB]

What? I'm not see what point you are making here.

You don't?

[Doctor_Tenma]

PW...I'm not arguing that it isn't negotiating. Geez, think a little, willya? Ask yourself some questions...people negotiate certain things for a reason. Now...why would Manny Pacquiao feel the need to negotiate how the tests are administered? When you ask yourself that, then you ask yourself what HE said his reasons are. See where I'm going? Really, this is simple logic, man.

Some people on here deserve to get slapped across the head. It's that simple!

[Kilrain]

I don't have to believe them. Manny's lies are enough.

Didn't I ask you to provide me a link which shows that Pacquiao agreed to random blood tests up until the fight and that he knew what the tests entailed (i.e. the number of tests, amount of blood drawn etc.)

I mean there's a difference to Pac suggesting he'll do a more comprehensive testing protocol and actually knowing what that entails.

Hence the negotiations whence everything was conveyed etc.

Provide me with a link

[Kagami Taiga]

it does seem like both arum and roach are tenative about pac fighting floyd. if they werent, they would have worked out the drug testing issue b4. lets remember, no matter how much u hate floyd, he was not the fighter that waled away from negotiations. arum didnt wanna make the fight....now he does. sound a little su****ious to u???

i dont think they thought that manny was ready for floyd at the time. the drug testing **** is just a cover story.

[IMDAZED]

No you missed my point, which was

that you are acting as if Floyd asking Manny to take unprecedented random drug tests up until the fight and Manny making sure Floyd doesn't come in overweight for an advantage as the same thing which is utter nonsense and if you don't know that you're moronic.

I already suggested that if Floyd wants OSDT he should appeal to the Commish. He can't just impose it on Pacquiao, because it is unprecedented and Manny does not need to succumb to Floyd's huge ego. If Floyd wants to fight under Commission rules, the fight would be made.

How ridiculous is it that both asked for stipulations outside of commission rules but only one of them needs to go to commission to make his stipulation a rule? Biased much?

[Khalid X]

Actually Pac is scared of Floyd

Getting pot-shotted to death >>>>>>>>getting caught and tortured by the Taliban

[Calilloyd]

He offered a compromise. Damn, he doesn't even need to do this OSDT.

So what are you saying, Manny must basically do EVERY test Floyd wants? Get the **** out of here with that ****. That's biased as hell. Floyd is a boxer, he should let the Commish do their job OR appeal to the Commish to introduce compulsory tests. This is a clash of egos. Manny doesn't have to bow to Floyd, he made almost 25 mill fighting Cotto

What he offered does not fall under OSDT guidelines. So he really didn't "compromise" anything LOL. You can spin this any way you want but Pacquiao was not "compromising."

[Doctor_Tenma]

No you missed my point, which was

that you are acting as if Floyd asking Manny to take unprecedented random drug tests up until the fight and Manny making sure Floyd doesn't come in overweight for an advantage as the same thing which is utter nonsense and if you don't know that you're moronic.

I already suggested that if Floyd wants OSDT he should appeal to the Commish. He can't just impose it on Pacquiao, because it is unprecedented and Manny does not need to succumb to Floyd's huge ego. If Floyd wants to fight under Commission rules, the fight would be made.

Unprecedented? Kessler and AA are doing it. Allan Green and Andre Ward are suggesting it.