Ray Robinson Or Roy Jones Jr. Who Was More Skilled

[TheGreatA]

How many of these beat Robinson?. either title or non title matches.

How about Joey Giardello and Paul Pender?. .which he never beat.

How about Danny Green and Joe Calzaghe which Jones never beat?

[Amazinger]

Find out for yourself son.

[Amazinger]

How about Danny Green and Joe Calzaghe which Jones never beat?

That is the thing,It has to do with the division they challenged.Some boxers will always have your number no matter how skilled you are.

[CarlosG815]

How about Danny Green and Joe Calzaghe which Jones never beat?

Jones was terribly washed up and nowhere near the prime of his greatness which was many years earlier. Joe Calzaghe would be easy work and Danny Green wouldn't have made it out of the first round against a prime Roy.

I do hope you acknowledge that.

[Calilloyd]

Both had crazy skill. I would say Jones had a little more natural athleticism and Ray had more ortohdox technical skill but who knows really? Both were at an incredible skill level.

Best answer here. .

[TheGreatA]

Not even a prime RJJ and look at the skills.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPP9ffqGYHk

What skills? Going against the ropes and taking a drubbing? Keeping hands at the waist and using reflexes to avoid punches at 35? Throwing combinations at insane speed that would be impossible for the average boxer? If Tarver vs Jones was a match between fundamental boxing without speed, power and reflexes taken into account, Tarver would have had an easy time. This is not an insult at Jones, as boxing does include athleticism, but there's a difference between natural ability and learned skill.

You can't teach anybody to fight like Jones. What he had was more than simple technique, he had natural ability and was extremely smart about the way he utilized his talents, unlike many other talented but less successful fighters who let their talent go to waste. I'm not saying the man didn't have skills, but he was not exactly a "technician" either.

Robinson was much more so, using his jabbing to set up his power punches and combinations, feinting to create an opening (Jones's feinting wasn't very impressive against Montell Griffin the first time), parrying punches unlike Jones who would simply dodge them, which he got away with in his prime, always having his feet set to punch with full leverage and never going against the ropes. He could fight it out in close and box from a distance. Now Robinson wasn't the most fundamental boxer either, he preferred to take the fight to his opponents with his speed and power and looked for the knockout at all times, and only rarely was forced to go on his "bicycle" to avoid being hit if he was physically overmatched, for example in the Joey Maxim fight.

Robinson's technical skills did allow him to fight up to his 40's successfully while we know that Jones was never the same after age 34, continuing to box with his unique style but far less successfully than in his dominating prime.

[CarlosG815]

Robinson's technical skills did allow him to fight up to his 40's successfully while we know that Jones was never the same after age 34, continuing to box with his unique style but far less successfully than in his dominating prime.

Roy's diminished skills had more to do with the fact that he moved up throughout his career and claimed the highest possible title of HW.

You can't put on 30 pounds of muscle and take it off without breaking your body down to the point where you will never fully recover and be yourself.

If you can't pull the trigger you can't pull the trigger.

[TheManniePhresh]

roy jones jr was not a great boxer but was great in the sport of boxing. advantages of being a phenomenal athlete

[Redemption]

Roy's diminished skills had more to do with the fact that he moved up throughout his career and claimed the highest possible title of HW.

You can't put on 30 pounds of muscle and take it off without breaking your body down to the point where you will never fully recover and be yourself.

If you can't pull the trigger you can't pull the trigger.

Especially when it is unnateral muscle. Much harder to come back down when you have this muscle on you which you are never suppose to have, and its even harder to lose it in the right places.

[TheGreatA]

Roy's diminished skills had more to do with the fact that he moved up throughout his career and claimed the highest possible title of HW.

You can't put on 30 pounds of muscle and take it off without breaking your body down to the point where you will never fully recover and be yourself.

If you can't pull the trigger you can't pull the trigger.

Robinson also started fighting at 135 pounds and had been off from boxing for 3 years before making his comeback at 35. He still regained the middleweight title 3 times and was highly competitive until 40+ years of age.

Jones simply couldn't get away with the things he could get away with in his prime:


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