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  • Jim Jeffries
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    #61
    Is someone really trying to argue that Pac isn't smaller than this guy?

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      #62
      Originally posted by Calilloyd
      You are showing your insecurity again, Lloyd, by bringing that fight up.

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      • Calilloyd
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        #63
        Originally posted by Spray_resistant
        All I am saying is Pac is smaller than most top JWWs and even some LWs based on typical FN weights for those fighters and we are not going in any other direction than that.

        If using a weighted drained zombie DLH who typically comes in to fight at 160+ is the best you have then I will dismiss class early today.

        Hey I have an idea why don't you make a thread about how Pac cherrypicked a smaller DLH and should have fought him at 140 since he is so small now.


        That wasn't the question was it? The question was who was the bigger fighter based on your logic. The question was not HOW it happened. One more time, who is the bigger fighter, Mayweather or Hatton? If you can't answer you better chalk up one of those "E-KO's" that seem so important to you to your name. And yeah, you would be on the losing end. It must be devastating considering that your Internet reputation seems to be so important to you. Especially when you run to the lounge bringing my name up concerning things that never happened here. I'll throw more in for you. Who was bigger, Wladimir Klitschko or Hasim Rahman. Thomas Hearns or Marvin Hagler? Sergio Martinez or Paul Williams? Remember, I'm just following your logic. I'll wait...... And I use my own ideas. The one you came up with is closer to your ignorant logic that I'm exposing here.
        Last edited by Calilloyd; 05-15-2010, 06:24 PM.

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        • Calilloyd
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          #64
          Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
          Is someone really trying to argue that Pac isn't smaller than this guy?




          Uh no. That's not the argument. It's a question based on another posters logic. But you're about as smart as ...Jim Jeffries. So I wouldnt expect anything else Mr "Jack Johnson was not a true American like Joe Louis". And last time I checked, pictures are not an accurate way to take measurements.

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          • Spray_resistant
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            #65
            Originally posted by Calilloyd
            That wasn't the question was it? The question was who was the bigger fighter based on your logic. The question was not HOW it happened. One more time, who is the bigger fighter, Mayweather or Hatton? If you can't answer you better chalk up one of those "E-KO's" that seem so important to you to your name. And yeah, you would be on the losing end. It must be devastating considering that your Internet reputation seems to be so important to you.Especially when you run to the lounge and brag about things that never happened here. I'll throw another moree in for you. Who was bigger, Wladimir Klitschko or Hasim Rahman. Thomas Hearns or Marvin Hagler? Sergio Martinez or Paul Williams? Remember, I'm just following your logic
            I am not interested in talking about anyone other than Pac in his natural size.

            I know of no other way other than the weights given on FN typically to determine his size ratio to other fighters.

            Based on this I come to my conclusions that he IS smaller than not just Tim Bradley but many other top jr. wws.

            If you disagree I don't know what else to tell you or what basis upon you are disagreeing because he is in fact smaller than those fighters.

            Just to humor you though..... Floyd and Hatton in addition to all of those fighter you mentioned.....I can't say as we don't have adequate data as a certain diva won't step on that scale on FN as of late in any fight in a few years.

            The other fighters......**** if I know other than PWill and Sergio are about the same size but I can't possibly have every fighters FN weights off hand.

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            • Jim Jeffries
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              #66
              Originally posted by Calilloyd
              Uh no. That's not the argument. It's a question based on another posters logic. But you're about as smart as ...Jim Jeffries. So I wouldnt expect anything else Mr "Jack Johnson was not a true American like Joe Louis".
              Hold on, let me get this straight: YOU are smarter than ME?

              Is that what you're seriously trying to say?

              Because that's hilarious. And yes, Joe Louis undid much of the damage that Jack Johnson did toward black fighters in the sport of boxing.


              But back to the topic of the, ahem, thread, Dzinziruk looked pretty good, albeit against a substandard opponent, in shaking off 18 months of rust. Look forward to seeing him against a top 54 pounder later this year.
              Last edited by Jim Jeffries; 05-15-2010, 05:26 PM.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                I am not interested in talking about anyone other than Pac in his natural size.

                I know of no other way other than the weights given on FN typically to determine his size ratio to other fighters.

                Based on this I come to my conclusions that he IS smaller than not just Tim Bradley but many other top jr. wws.

                If you disagree I don't know what else to tell you or what basis upon you are disagreeing because he is in fact smaller than those fighters.

                Just to humor you though..... Floyd and Hatton in addition to all of those fighter you mentioned.....I can't say as we don't have adequate data as a certain diva won't step on that scale on FN as of late in any fight in a few years.

                The other fighters......**** if I know other than PWill and Sergio are about the same size but I can't possibly have every fighters FN weights off hand.




                You can't answer the question. Or you don't want to answer it. Just what I thought........

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Calilloyd
                  You can't answer the question. Or you don't want to answer it. Just what I thought........
                  Can't, he could be anywhere from 147-160+ on FN we don't know because he won't let us know for sure.

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                  • Calilloyd
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
                    Hold on, let me get this straight: YOU are smarter than ME?

                    Is that what you're seriously trying to say?

                    Because that's hilarious. And yes, Joe Louis undid much of the damage that Jack Johnson did toward black fighters in the sport of boxing.


                    But back to the topic of the, ahem, thread, Dzinziruk looked pretty good, albeit against a substandard opponent, in shaking off 18 months of rust. Look forward to seeing him against a top 54 pounder later this year.


                    Uh, that wasn't the question. And you're not fooling anybody with your imaginary concern for black fighters lol. Jack Johnson didn't create problems that already existed. You're obviously too ignorant to understand that so I won't waste time explaining it. And yes, I'm smarter than you. Your ignorant comment that Jack Johnson was any less "American" than Joe Louis exemplifies that. Yes, get back to the topic. Good move.
                    Last edited by Calilloyd; 05-15-2010, 05:29 PM.

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                    • Jim Jeffries
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Calilloyd
                      Uh, that wasn't the question. And your not fooling anybody with your imaginary concern for black fighters lol. Jack Johnson didn't create problems that already existed. And yes, I'm smarter than you. The ignorant comment that Jack Johnson was any less American than Joe Louis exemplifies that.
                      ****** and delusional, that's a bad combination, I'm afraid.

                      Have you anything to say about the thread topic, or are you once again simply here to flame and push your agenda?




                      Dzinziruk gave himself some more exposure last night to an American audience, though one wonders if at 34 it isn't too late to get some big fights.

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