Stop being a *****! Everyone else is fighting w/o OSTs.

[vandiar]

And you keep ignoring me when i say that you are comparing apples to oranges, and did you notice that there was no public smear campaign in order to manipulate Floyd into agreeing to it. They asked for it professionally and Floyd agreed to it. And was it an unresonable demand?


"Hey even though it's 99.9% likely that you will make the weight just in case you dont".


*** the scenerio of Floyd not making weight was so unlikely that I just don't understand why this is so big of an issue to you.

Just how "unlikely" is it that Pac would not test positive for PEDs? Probably not likely at all, that is unless he is not clean.. In fact let us flip your statement and replace a few words. "*** the scenerio of Pac failing a drug test is so unlikely that I just don't understand why this is so big of an issue to you" Can you see it now?? Not accusing him of anything but it does seem su****ious to me he is throwing away a guaranteed 40 million because he doesn't want to go through stricter DRUG TESTING! It sounds ridiculous really. And I like Pac.

[pistol whip]

No, I'm saying that if better testing exists then we should use it. The **** is wrong with you? And second, what's even more childish is to think Toney used it twice...just the two times he was caught. Grow up.

And thats fine but making accusations and having to stir up suspision before you go an ask for the test reeks of bull****. Floyd should of simply asked for the test without the dog and pony show. The ***ing end!

[pistol whip]

Just how "unlikely" is it that Pac would not test positive for PEDs? Probably not likely at all, that is unless he is not clean.. In fact let us flip your statement and replace a few words. "*** the scenerio of Pac failing a drug test is so unlikely that I just don't understand why this is so big of an issue to you" Can you see it now?? Not accusing him of anything but it does seem su****ious to me he is throwing away a guaranteed 40 million because he doesn't want to go through stricter DRUG TESTING! It sounds ridiculous really. And I like Pac.

And it also seems su****ious to me that Floyd has to have a drug test after fighting 39 previous bouts without one and then having to go to great lengths to stir up public su****ion of Pac conviniently before he actually asked for a test.


We could go in circles for hours if you'd like.

[pistol whip]

You just said that him wanting to protect himself is reason enough, so why are you continuing to focus on Mayweather's intentions instead of trying to understand the real reason why Pacquiao has refused? Mayweather's intentions are obvious to anyonme with a brain, he wan ts to take further steps than the one's in place to make sure that Pacquiao is clean when he enters the ring to fight him. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out. Your little insults mean nothing. I don't have to insult you, your lack of intelligence is glaring on it's own.

No because if his intentions were just to see if Pac was clean then their was no need to drum up su****ion first. In otherwords his actions have convinced me that he is holding up the fight out of sheer ego and showmanship.

[thatnickuh]

No because if his intentions were just to see if Pac was clean then their was no need to drum up su****ion first. In otherwords his actions have convinced me that he is holding up the fight out of sheer ego and showmanship.

The request isn't holding up the fight, Pacquiao's refusal to take the stricter testing is holding up the fight. All Pacquiao has to do is take the same tests that Mayweather is willing to take. Mayweather has remained consistent on the issue while Pacquiao has flip-flopped all over the place. You can't be this slow, is it an act or what?

[pistol whip]

The request isn't holding up the fight, Pacquiao's refusal to take the stricter testing is holding up the fight.

Soooo if Floyd didn't back down on his requests the fight will still be off?


Seriously why is it that Pac has to be the one who bends to Floyds will? I would really like to hear one good reason?


The only reason you have given me is "just because" which i'm sorrry is nowhere near a valid argument.

[j.one]

Hmmmm I dunno what that means, 0 days gets the fight done.

[Reloaded]

Soooo if Floyd didn't back down on his requests the fight will still be off?


Seriously why is it that Pac has to be the one who bends to Floyds will? I would really like to hear one good reason?


The only reason you have given me is "just because" which i'm sorrry is nowhere near a valid argument.

What are you on man , bend to his will , its PEDS we are talking about for christ sake , you have no clue if Pac is on them or not , as an opponent Floyd has every right in the world to ask for a guarantee that enhancement drugs are not used against him ,,, you dont ignore rumors of Aids you have a simple test , in sport you dont ignore rumors of PEDS you test them and all fighters except Pac will agree to be tested , if Pac ducks Floyd again on grounds of not wanting to be tested he is a ***ing cheat .

[vandiar]

I just find it amusing that people actually try to defend someone that is not willing to take random drug testing. It sounds really ridiculous. I am a fan of both fighters but some people take nuthuggin to a whole nother level. How someone can flat out say Manny is justified in not taking strict random drug testing is beyond me.

[thatnickuh]

Soooo if Floyd didn't back down on his requests the fight will still be off?

I don't know. Did Team Pacquiao initially agree to Mayweather's request only to go back on their word? Has Team Pacquiao lied and contradicted themselves several times as far as what they will and won't agree to? Did Team Pacquiao wait until after Mayweather agreed to all of their requests before they decided to make his drug testing request an issue, even though the request was on the table from the very beginning? I'm not convinced that Pacquiao wants to fight Mayweather, therefore I'm not convinced that they would sign the contract even if Mayweather dropped his request. They may make money an issue next, who knows what to believe as far as they are concerned?

Seriously why is it that Pac has to be the one who bends to Floyds will? I would really like to hear one good reason?

Stop looking at this like an insecure little b*tch. That's your problem. It's not bending to Mayweather's will, it's compromising to make the fighht. Mayweather agreed to Pacquiao's requests in order to make the fight, why shouldn't we as fans expect Pacquiao to do the same? Especially when it's a reasonable request that would go further to ensure that the fight is clean and fair. Mayweather even compromised on his one request. Why can't you see things as they are?

The only reason you have given me is "just because" which i'm sorrry is nowhere near a valid argument.

"just because" is not my argument. I've just reiterated my argument once nagain, it's not my fault that you're not capable of comprehending simple points.