Mayweather has the best offense in boxing. Not Pacquiao.

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  • Cash Cow
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    #171
    Originally posted by P4P305
    That's not the point..The point that i am making is that, Kobe and LeBron played similar minutes during the regular season, but Kobe did attempted slightly more FGA( Field Goal attempts) than LeBron did. Dwight Howard doesn't attempted that many shot attempts in comparison to Kobe and LeBron, and he's an interior(post) scorer, whereas LeBron and Kobe can scores in the perimeter as well as in the post(interior)..
    this makes sense, but Lebron is not a more accurate shooter than Kobe by any means....actually Durant is a better shooter than Lebron

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      #172
      Originally posted by Jerzz
      Effects of fighting the Pacman
      LMAO...Diaz won a vacant title in a bout vs a very washed up Morales....try again

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        #173
        Originally posted by Clayton Bigsby
        burner is a nsb attention whore. he has taken the mantle from horus.
        i think your right. I guess thats where the term ***** comes from.
        *******s are deff worse tho i must say.

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          #174
          Originally posted by Easy Work Jr.
          Hatton was undefeated & #5 P4P...also he only weighed in @145....look at his career he has weighed between 140 & 145lbs ....the move up in weight wasnt the problem....

          Marquez? he only had to gain 7lbs....Pac had to gain 12 to fight Oscar....

          Shane? He was the #1 WW, Ranked #3 P4P and was said by Freddie Roach to be too dangerous and good of a fighter for Pac to fight him....

          try again
          why did hatton moved down at 140 after floyd? shows he was that ****** to enter the WW division... he was totally KTFO by pac in the weight class he is best at.

          marquez only gaining 7lbs and floyd not weighing in the contracted weight? shows he was punk'd by floyd... marquez is the best counter puncher in the lower weight division, maybe up to 140 if he had tried... anything above that is floyd's. he was just so ****** to move up on a weight class his body cannot cope up with.

          pac gained 12 pounds against a bigger, and yes we can agree that he was drained, dela ****... that shows dela **** was ****** he drained himself upto that point and he is really a washed up fighter against a ravaging monster in pac. that's a +1 on pac's offense... imagine moving in 12 weight classes to fight a bigger one weight class lower fighter...

          can't agree with roach on shane as the monster in WW... but the monster seen against margarito was a cute little puppy against floyd. i assume roach said to himself "pac could have KTFO that old man... if only i knew he's like that...damn chances..."

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            #175
            Originally posted by Easy Work Jr.
            this makes sense, but Lebron is not a more accurate shooter than Kobe by any means....actually Durant is a better shooter than Lebron
            I never said he was..did i? I said he was a more efficient scorer, not a shooter.. Yes, Durant is definitely a better outside shooter than LeBron.

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            • Championart
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              #176
              Look at it this way guys Lebron (Mayweather) is the better all around player/fighter than Kobe(Pac) but Kobe (Pac) is the better offensive player/fighter even though Lebron (Mayweather) is more efficient on offensively.

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                #177
                Originally posted by Easy Work Jr.
                LMAO...Diaz won a vacant title in a bout vs a very washed up Morales....try again
                Not my problem if thats your problem hehehe

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by Championart
                  Look at it this way guys Lebron (Mayweather) is the better all around player/fighter than Kobe(Pac) but Kobe (Pac) is the better offensive player/fighter even though Lebron (Mayweather) is more efficient on offensively.
                  That's what i've been saying. in terms of pure skills, Kobe = Floyd..In terms of pure strength and speed, LeBron = Manny..They're all have very common similarities and differences no matter how we compare them..

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                    #179
                    Floyd's offense is very underrated but i give pac the edge in offense though. But offense is not just accuracy, its not just combinations, and its not just volume, etc. its a good mix of them all. When floyd comes forward you see that his skills are very dynamic and he throws at different angles. The punch that KO'd hatton was a hybrid uppercut left hook perfect timing. You guys did a good job of highlighting why pac is good offensively. All around floyd is hands down the more dynamic fighter in my opinion though. Those who say floyd always fights smaller fighters should know that hatton and Marquez are the only times where i've seen floyd definitively bigger. On the other hand manny was pretty much bigger and stronger than everybody in the lower divisions. The two careers are very well documented you would see this if you looked for the facts. Both are great fighters. Very interesting take on things TS kudos.

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                      #180
                      Originally posted by jpunieves
                      why did hatton moved down at 140 after floyd? shows he was that ****** to enter the WW division... he was totally KTFO by pac in the weight class he is best at.

                      marquez only gaining 7lbs and floyd not weighing in the contracted weight? shows he was punk'd by floyd... marquez is the best counter puncher in the lower weight division, maybe up to 140 if he had tried... anything above that is floyd's. he was just so ****** to move up on a weight class his body cannot cope up with.

                      pac gained 12 pounds against a bigger, and yes we can agree that he was drained, dela ****... that shows dela **** was ****** he drained himself upto that point and he is really a washed up fighter against a ravaging monster in pac. that's a +1 on pac's offense... imagine moving in 12 weight classes to fight a bigger one weight class lower fighter...

                      can't agree with roach on shane as the monster in WW... but the monster seen against margarito was a cute little puppy against floyd. i assume roach said to himself "pac could have KTFO that old man... if only i knew he's like that...damn chances..."
                      You guys should realize the nature of weight in boxing. Pac was comfortable at WW weight range as early as his first Morales fight as he often weighed in between 142 and 145 lbs on fight night. The only disadvantage pac has at the higher weight division is not being used to the greater power at the division and the generally greater dimensions of fighters at the higher weight divisions. Pac's body was in no way handicapped in that fight. Also you should know that Pac weighed more than De la hoya on fight night. The fights that showed truly impressive offensive ability were hatton and Cotto fights. They were the only game fighters. Clottey was game but he's just not a champion calibur fighter.

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