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  • LeadUppercut
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    #81
    Originally posted by Dave Rado
    So is football (both versions). So is tennis. So is basketball. So is athletics. So is every other major sport. And the whole point of a sport, any sport, is that the best compete against the best, as they do in all those sports. Otherwise it's not a sport at all.
    NO dude, prizefighting is a business with sporting benefits, not a sport with business benefits..... end of story. It suxx.

    Originally posted by Dave Rado
    And when boxing stops being a sport, it will fail as a business, because there will no longer be any reason why fans should give a damn about it. To the extent that that's happened already, that's a major reason why boxing, which used to be one of the most popular of all mainstream sports, is now only a niche sport, which rarely gets covered by the mainstream sports media any more.
    Promoters will always be able to market a boxing match in order to generate money. Human beings love that ****. Your idea that boxing has all of a sudden turned into a business is wrong, boxing has always been business first.

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    • Pullcounter
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      #82
      Originally posted by Calilloyd
      Nice way of taking everything I said out of context. My 2 cents.

      you wanna quibble about money. I just wanna see a great fight.

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      • Pullcounter
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        #83
        Originally posted by LeadUppercut
        NO dude, prizefighting is a business with sporting benefits, not a sport with business benefits..... end of story. It suxx.
        spoken like a business man, not a boxing fan.

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        • LeadUppercut
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          #84
          Originally posted by Dave Rado
          Alexander hadn't beaten anyone back then, so it's not surprising that such a low offer was made at that time. Plus both fighters were with Showtime, who always pay far less than HBO pay. He was paid about the same to fight Campbell. But now that both fighters are with HBO and hold three titles between them, they'd obviously be paid far more to fight now. But Bradley hasn't even discussed the fight with HBO, which sucks. And his bringing up what he was offered by Showtime back then and pretending it has any relevance to what HBO would offer now is simply dishonest of him, because it has no relevance whatsoever.
          I love Alexander, so dont take this the wrong way.....
          but according to recent reports, he already has a date booked with HBO.....
          so, instead of all the back-and-forth about Bradley ducking Alexander because of this hypothetical "good" offer.....
          how much did Team Alexander offer Bradley, so that we can reasonably determine if you are correct ?

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          • Dave Rado
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            #85
            Originally posted by LeadUppercut
            NO dude, prizefighting is a business with sporting benefits, not a sport with business benefits..... end of story. It suxx.



            Promoters will always be able to market a boxing match in order to generate money. Human beings love that ****. Your idea that boxing has all of a sudden turned into a business is wrong, boxing has always been business first.
            You're missing the point. All major sports are businesses. But boxing is a successful business only to the extent that it's a successful sport. The moment it becomes nothing more than entertainment, and stops being a sport, it will fail as a business, and that's a huge part of the reason it's a far less successful business than it used to be, and has become a niche sport, because there are too many titlists who never fight each other, and too many mismatches. If you really think the situation hasn't got worse in that respect, you know nothing about the history of boxing.

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            • Dave Rado
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              #86
              Originally posted by LeadUppercut
              I love Alexander, so dont take this the wrong way.....
              but according to recent reports, he already has a date booked with HBO.....
              so, instead of all the back-and-forth about Bradley ducking Alexander because of this hypothetical "good" offer.....
              how much did Team Alexander offer Bradley, so that we can reasonably determine if you are correct ?
              They both have a date with HBO, but neither has managed to get an opponent. Alexander wants his opponent to be Bradley. Bradley doesn't. Given that Bradley doesn't, and given that HBO pulls the purse strings and won't make an offer unless both fighters are interested in fighting each other, no offer can be made until Bradley changes his tune. All that's needed to determine what HBO would be willing to pay is for Bradley to ask them.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Dave Rado
                They both have a date with HBO, but neither has managed to get an opponent. Alexander wants his opponent to be Bradley. Bradley doesn't. Given that Bradley doesn't, and given that HBO pulls the purse strings and won't make an offer unless both fighters are interested in fighting each other, no offer can be made until Bradley changes his tune. All that's needed to determine what HBO would be willing to pay is for Bradley to ask them.
                Thank you kind sir. /thread.

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                • Rome-By-Ko
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                  #88
                  Bradley is a class act love this guy.I think he is the guy to beat at 140lb and don't see anybody beating him there.Hope he fights soon on HBO and get's a big fight with with Devon.The best fighting the best in their primes can't ask for much more then that.

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                  • LeadUppercut
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Dave Rado
                    For the most part, maybe, but I was arguing with people who claimed that it doesn't and that it needn't, and that the only thing that matters is short term money, and the competition aspect can go hang. And the fact that it doesn't do it more than it does is a big part of why it's lost a lot of its popularity.
                    The Heavyweight division has traditionally generated the most interest within the sport of boxing. Sport in general has become a HUGE business. NBA players for example generate MASSIVE, ridiculous, contract-based salaries. NOTE : the point that I am making here is the advantage of financial security offered by a HUGE yearly contract-based salary enoyed by every single member of the team, as opposed to 5% of boxers enjoying 95% of the money..... and the rest grow old, nursing their injuries.

                    Could it be true to suggest that the ridiculous money offered to hundreds of athletes competing in the other major US sporting codes, has contributed to the decline of the Heavyweight division, at least in the US always, which has subsequently contributed to the lack of interest in boxing that you are referring to ?

                    I AM NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU when you say that if the best-fight-the-best, then that often makes for a great fight, which will generate more interest from the fans, which will in turn strengthen the sport that we love.

                    I am just saying that the decline of boxing cannot be blamed on Bradley for ducking Alexander, just because a fight that you wanna see, doesnt happen the moment you decide that you want to see it.

                    The world has become more complicated, and so has the sport of boxing.

                    Boxing history confirms that you sometimes only get one chance, lets not jump to conclusions until this thing plays out. We could all get what we want yet, and who knows whats gonna happen with the Pac/May fight.

                    I would suggest that the wise man should have his options open right about now.

                    Remember..... Shane got "lucky".

                    NO offense meant, best wishes to my bro's in Haiti.
                    Last edited by LeadUppercut; 05-14-2010, 09:28 PM.

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                    • Calilloyd
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter

                      you wanna quibble about money. I just wanna see a great fight.


                      If you take money out of the equation you're living in a fantasy world. I'm a realist and I'm not going to critisize fighters for wanting to make money. It's prize fighting not street fighting.

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