Mayweather vs Pac who is in a disadvantage regarding PEDS?

[V.WEBB]

from what i know he agreed to 24day blood test.. but the other guy still keeps whining about 14day blood test like a little girl...what the heck?
if ur the other guy and u think it will weakin u if its too close to the fight,
will u still take that fight and get ur ass beaten? if u do ur a dumb arse boxer, ill laugh at u all day watching the replay of ur fight gettin ur arse whoop lol.

Who did he agree with to the 24 day cut off?

The USADA's protocol calls for testing all the way up to the event. Manny tried to change THEIR protocol.

[viperz007]

Well, I know he isn't on anything because he has subjected himself to the more stringent testing. And I agree, all fighters are suspect. They are even more suspect when they are giving the opportunity to clear their name, but instead they lie and contradict themselves.

The other two things I have highlighted, I won't even bother getting in to. I'll just say that Manny goes above the Commission when he wants to, but now he wants to run behind the Commission on this issue.

LOL when? on fighting shane right? but how bout his past fights? how can u be sure he didnt use any **** of that so called hgh or steroid he keeps yapping that wont be detected by the Nevada commission? he sure sound like his sure they cant detect it, maybe he used one?
if u say the guy might be on roid, ill say the other guy might be on roid too,
they are both blood tested and came out clean on there past fights,

but one guy had a bad experience with blood testing too close to the fight, and came out lost.. and by the way CLEAN...

well running behind the neveda commision rules will make him gain his confidence back u cant blame him for that he has past bad experience...

u can blame it to the other guy for using that demand to stop the fight...

[V.WEBB]

LOL when? on fighting shane right? but how bout his past fights? how can u be sure he didnt use any **** of that so called hgh or steroid he keeps yapping that wont be detected by the Nevada commission? he sure sound like his sure they cant detect it, maybe he used one?
if u say the guy might be on roid, ill say the other guy might be on roid too,
they are both blood tested and came out clean on there past fights,

Did you read my last post, I said all fighters are suspect.

but one guy had a bad experience with blood testing too close to the fight, and came out lost.. and by the way CLEAN...

So Erik Morales had nothing to do with Manny losing that fight? And the dude gave blood 19 days before he fought Clottey and the VERY NEXT DAY he destroyed his sparring partners and then went on to throw 1000 punches in his fight with Josh! You think I'm buying that, "it weakens him if its too close to a fight"? Get real.

well running behind the neveda commision rules will make him gain his confidence back u cant blame him for that he has past bad experience...

So he needs the commission rules for his confidence?!? Man, I have heard it all! You may not blame him for that, but I will! That's going in my sig!

u can blame it to the other guy for using that demand to stop the fight...

Did you forget that Manny agreed to the testing?

[viperz007]

Who did he agree with to the 24 day cut off?

The USADA's protocol calls for testing all the way up to the event. Manny tried to change THEIR protocol.

USADA is mayweather's rules, and manny doesnt want to be anyones b!tch by following his rules...

and manny knows mayweather is using this blood testing demand issue as anvantage over him... as we all know mayweather is good at taking advantage and making sure he will come out the winner to preserve his 0.. without his 0 he will be nobody nu more, and that will mean nu more cash for him...

again i will ask u this question...
will u still take the fight if u think blood testing too close to the fight weakens u?

[PH|L]

I like what Pac did with his proposal here. He recognized the importance of more strict drug testing but understands that its counter-productive if the testing can have a significant negative impact on a fighter's performance and training. Boxing is not a game, its a tough sport where you can get seriously hurt. So by having random urine testing throughout the training camp, up to the fight, and random blood testing with a cut-off date in the critical weeks of training leading up to the fight, we have a testing system which is vastly improved from the original commission protocol, without being intrusive and having the possibility of affecting a fighter's psyche before a fight.

I noticed how Tarver said in the commentary after Kessler vs Froch that a fighter's psyche is a huge aspect of his performance and how little things like being in your comfort zone in the days leading up to the fight can have a big impact on fight night. He said that was one of the main reasons why the home fighter has won every fight so far in the super 6.

We saw in 24/7 of Mayweather vs Mosley that the OST can really take a fighter out of his comfort zone. Even Mosley said something along the lines of how he could see that many fighters would find this intrusive and annoying. I don't remember the exact words but he clearly said that he realises that OST could be a pain in the ass for alot of fighters, even though he was OK with it. Its all good to have strict drug testing but if it results in a fighter being anything less than 100% then it is counter-productive. I'm happy that Pac has not bowed down to the pressure and let himself be bullied into agreeing to something that has the potential of cheating the fans out of a great fight that is fought between two fighters at the highest level that they could possibly be at.

I'm all for better drug testing, but not if it bothers the clean fighters enough to have a negative impact.

[V.WEBB]

USADA is mayweather's rules, and manny doesnt want to be anyones b!tch by following his rules...

and manny knows mayweather is using this blood testing demand issue as anvantage over him... as we all know mayweather is good at taking advantage and making sure he will come out the winner to preserve his 0.. without his 0 he will be nobody nu more, and that will mean nu more cash for him...

again i will ask u this question...
will u still take the fight if u think blood testing too close to the fight weakens u?

This convo is over man. You don't know facts. Bye.

[viperz007]

Did you read my last post, I said all fighters are suspect.



So Erik Morales had nothing to do with Manny losing that fight? And the dude gave blood 19 days before he fought Clottey and the VERY NEXT DAY he destroyed his sparring partners and then went on to throw 1000 punches in his fight with Josh! You think I'm buying that, "it weakens him if its too close to a fight"? Get real.



So he needs the commission rules for his confidence?!? Man, I have heard it all! You may not blame him for that, but I will! That's going in my sig!



Did you forget that Manny agreed to the testing?

wat the heck u keep yapping about that manny agreed to testing about?
they were still on negotiation NO CONTRACT SIGNED yet got that?
manny wants 24, ur bf want 14 -- they havent meet yet to an agreement are u dumb?

well 19 days sounds far from the fight for me.

lets not forget his main reason here he doesnt want any boxer to dictate the any rules...

how old are u? u sound like a 10years old for me who has been blinded by a so called self proclaimed boxer who cherry pick opponents, then now that people have something to match for him he whines like a little b!tch b4 fighting... shame on u

and by the way u havent answerd my questions yet..
will u still fight even u think that blood testing too close to the fight weakens u?

[S H A R K B O Y]

USADA is mayweather's rules, and manny doesnt want to be anyones b!tch by following his rules...

and manny knows mayweather is using this blood testing demand issue as anvantage over him... as we all know mayweather is good at taking advantage and making sure he will come out the winner to preserve his 0.. without his 0 he will be nobody nu more, and that will mean nu more cash for him...

again i will ask u this question...
will u still take the fight if u think blood testing too close to the fight weakens u?

With Mayweather's dominant performance over Mosley, it propelled him back to his regular spot. All you guys can do is mention the big shots from round 2 and that's about it. When was the last time he was in trouble like that? Chop Chop? Maybe the close fight he had against JLC? Either way Pacquiao die-hard fans like yourself are reaching hard, trying to scrounge up whatever they can use against Mayweather, because when it comes to boxing there is close to nothing you can, other than those crazy shots from his last fight.

I've said this before and I'll say it again, but in the end only Pacquiao is causing his own su****ion and doubt for refusing to test. Period. I've asked a countless number people who are casual fans and they've all responded with the same thing; why is he refusing to prove his innocence?

Pacquiao imposed a $10 million dollar per pound penalty; Mayweather imposed the USADA drug testing, which he himself is also subjected to.

Roach was fine with the testing but Pacquiao ended up pulling out his bag 'o excuses to no agree with the tests.

USADA testing means NO cut-off dates, except up to the day of the fight. If there is a cut off, it makes the testing USELESS since there are substances that can be CYCLED or FLUSHED out of the system within HOURS.

You Pacquiao fans need to stop making it a pride issue amongst yourselves, it makes you look ignorant and uninformed.

[viperz007]

With Mayweather's dominant performance over Mosley, it propelled him back to his regular spot. All you guys can do is mention the big shots from round 2 and that's about it. When was the last time he was in trouble like that? Chop Chop? Maybe the close fight he had against JLC? Either way Pacquiao die-hard fans like yourself are reaching hard, trying to scrounge up whatever they can use against Mayweather, because when it comes to boxing there is close to nothing you can, other than those crazy shots from his last fight.

I've said this before and I'll say it again, but in the end only Pacquiao is causing his own su****ion and doubt for refusing to test. Period. I've asked a countless number people who are casual fans and they've all responded with the same thing; why is he refusing to prove his innocence?

Pacquiao imposed a $10 million dollar per pound penalty; Mayweather imposed the USADA drug testing, which he himself is also subjected to.

Roach was fine with the testing but Pacquiao ended up pulling out his bag 'o excuses to no agree with the tests.

USADA testing means NO cut-off dates, except up to the day of the fight. If there is a cut off, it makes the testing USELESS since there are substances that can be CYCLED or FLUSHED out of the system within HOURS.

You Pacquiao fans need to stop making it a pride issue amongst yourselves, it makes you look ignorant and uninformed.

well that explains alot that he doesnt want to be anyones b!tch, by not following someones rules, and by the way whos that someone to dictate? was that ur bf too?
dang too many gayweathers b!tch in the world this days...
maybe ur willing to eat gayweathers **** for 40mill and be his b!tch too by following his rules?
LOL really shame on u people for rooting on someone thats a whiner and a cherry picker...
really are u seriously impressed by wat gayweather vs mosley happen?
im not even impressed by mosley shaken mayweather with that hard punch,
wat did mosley do after that 2nd round? shake his hands like a propeller instead of jabbing LOL, was that u call a fight? dand that was like a little girl vs an 80 years old man...

ur talking about flushing some steroid out of ur system for hours? where? did u came from the future and took it from there? u had a proof of this so called steroid? maybe u and mayweather first tried this stuff? and u got tested and got out clean?

lol ur the one thats uninformed, and u need to take a rest from riding gayweathers d!ck ur arse is swelling already...

and lets not forget the guy is innocent until his proven guilty,
while the other guy will forever be a cherry picker and a whiner on the minds of people...

even i wouldnt let anyone dictate the rules and be his b!tch ill make him my b!tch thats for sure...

and by the way which is better? defending someone thats been accuse of something without any proof or accusing someone without any proof? its like shotting someone on the head without even proving his guilty brother and that u just commited a murder... shame on u d!criders

[Spoon23]

well that explains alot that he doesnt want to be anyones b!tch, by not following someones rules, and by the way whos that someone to dictate? was that ur bf too?
dang too many gayweathers b!tch in the world this days...
maybe ur willing to eat gayweathers **** for 40mill and be his b!tch too by following his rules?
LOL really shame on u people for rooting on someone thats a whiner and a cherry picker...
really are u seriously impressed by wat gayweather vs mosley happen?
im not even impressed by mosley shaken mayweather with that hard punch,
wat did mosley do after that 2nd round? shake his hands like a propeller instead of jabbing LOL, was that u call a fight? dand that was like a little girl vs an 80 years old man...

ur talking about flushing some steroid out of ur system for hours? where? did u came from the future and took it from there? u had a proof of this so called steroid? maybe u and mayweather first tried this stuff? and u got tested and got out clean?

lol ur the one thats uninformed, and u need to take a rest from riding gayweathers d!ck ur arse is swelling already...

and lets not forget the guy is innocent until his proven guilty,
while the other guy will forever be a cherry picker and a whiner on the minds of people...

even i wouldnt let anyone dictate the rules and be his b!tch ill make him my b!tch thats for sure...

and by the way which is better? defending someone thats been accuse of something without any proof or accusing someone without any proof? its like shotting someone on the head without even proving his guilty brother and that u just commited a murder... shame on u d!criders

Spot on brother