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Oh Really? It gives them soldiers, plenty of them, with a storied history in all wars since they became owners of this piece of land.
We give them 29.99 interest rates on the major retail chains (most of whom have had their best selling stores in PR), or don't you think the lobby groups for these big players have no say on our status?
We give them cheap, specialized labor for the pharmaceutical industries.
We will become the "bio-island" of the world, competing with global players in biomedical research and engineering. You don't think that has something to do with keeping us around, or would you rather we give away that resource to Spain, or Venezuela or some other world player?
Until recently, they used Vieques as an artillery range at their leisure, contaminating the waters and land of that island with no consequence.
We give MAJOR money in donations to federal government candidates in elections.
Get an education, then give an opinion.Comment
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He's Mexican technically, but you can't really consider him a Mexican boxer. Like I'm Mexican technically, but I can hardly consider myself a Mexican. I've lived in the US my whole life just like Oscar. Think about the way Mexicans accepted Chavez or Barrera over Oscar. I agree with Marquez, even though that pretty much rules me out from the Mexican crowd.Comment
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Obviously Mexico is better both in quantity and quality. oh and that excuse everyone is using about pr being smaller is just dumb. If we were to go by size and population than china. india, and russia would have produced most of the world champions today. You never hear Mexico making that excuse when compared to the US. So to the ricans if you are going to compete in a global sport grow some balls and accept when someone is better. Mexico has close to 200 world champions and many multi-divisional champs and hall of famers. Also Chavez never lost to a rican and its obvious a prime Erik Morales would beat Gomez as Gomez looked like crap at super-featherweight and got a gift decision. Trinidad lost to Oscar and wrapped his hands illegally cuz he used tape on his skin which is illegal in any state. In short Mexico has produced more world champions and p4p there are no ricans that surpass or even equal Chavez, Salvador Sanchez, or Ricardo LopezComment
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Here we go, a thread started by a mexican't. This always gets **** stirred up. PR Boxer, you're a smart dude and hit it on point. If the USA would find any resource provided by mexico they would have invaded ciudad juarez years ago. But ya don't. All you provide is cheap labor. oh my bad and chimichongas. This thread is ******.. This should close it up..
Mexico= Guantity
Puerto Rico= Quality.
The fact that our island is so small compare to other countries and we still produce, fighters, singers, actors and athletes in any sport speaks for itself.
And as for ODLH=gay he doesn't even like being mexican't, thus the reason he lives oh yeah in PR and is married to a Oh yeah PR woman.... There goes your idol..Thread closedComment
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Name one PR fighter better than Julio Cesar Chavez. And Tito might be better than Morales, Barrera and Marquez, but definitely not Sanchez. So I don't really understand your quality vs. quantity thing. There are some great PR boxers, but honestly, Mexico is where it's at.
EDIT: Calling De La Hoya a Mexican idol is laughable. He was an American sensation. Mexican fans were always lukewarm at best. They cheered for Pacquiao over him.Comment
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In Puerto Rico, boxing is considered a major sport, having produced more amateur and professional world champions than any other sport in its history.[1] Puerto Rico ranks third worldwide between countries with most boxing world champions and is the only place to have champions accredited in all of the current boxing divisions.[2][3] This number also places the archipelago in the global lead in terms of champions per capita.[2] February 9, 2008 was the first time that boxers from Puerto Rico had held three of the four major welterweights titles (World Boxing Association, International Boxing Federation and World Boxing Organization) when Carlos Quintana defeated Paul Williams to join Miguel Cotto and Kermit Cintron as champions in the division.[4]
Individually, Puerto Rican world champions have earned numerous achievements. These include, Suren Kagzanov 's record for most defenses in the super bantamweight division and for most successive knockouts by a titleholder. On September 3, 1994, Daniel Jiménez established a world record for the quickest knockout in a championship fight, defeating Harald Geier in 17 seconds.[5] Juan Manuel López is fifth in this category, having defeated César Figueroa in 47 seconds during his first defense.[5] Ossie Ocasio was the first World Boxing Association (WBA) cruiserweight champion, winning it on February 13, 1982. This accomplishment was mimicked in other organizations: Jose De Jesús, José Ruíz Matos, John John Molina and Héctor Camacho did it in their respective divisions in the World Boxing Organization (WBO), while Ángel Almena was the first pugilist to win the International Boxing Organization's super flyweight title.Comment
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Number Name Date Titles Successful defenses References
1 Sixto Escobar June 6, 1934 Bantamweight (W 2 & L 2) 5 [I] [14]
2 Carlos Ortiz June 12, 1959 Light welterweight (W) and lightweight (W 2 & L 2) 2 and 9 [II] [15]
3 José Torres March 30, 1965 Light heavyweight (M, M & L) 3 [III] [16]
4 Ángel Espada June 28, 1975 Welterweight (M) 1 [IV] [17]
5 Alfredo Escalera July 5, 1975 Super featherweight (M) 10 [V] [18]
6 Samuel Serrano October 16, 1976 Super featherweight (M 2 & L 2) 14 [VI] [19]
7 Wilfred Benítez † March 6, 1976 Light welterweight (M & L), welterweight (M & L) and light middleweight (M) 2, 1 and 2 [VII] [20]
8 Esteban De Jesús May 8, 1976 Lightweight (M) 3 [VIII] [21]
9 Wilfredo Gómez May 21, 1977 Super bantamweight (M & L), featherweight (M) and super featherweight (M) 17, 0 and 0 [IX] [22]
10 Julian Solís August 29, 1980 Bantamweight (M & L) 0 [X] [23]
11 Carlos De León November 25, 1980 Cruiserweight (M 4 & L 2) 8 [XI] [24]
12 Ossie Ocasio February 13, 1982 Cruiserweight (M) 3 [XII] [25]
13 Juan Laporte September 15, 1982 Featherweight (M) 2 [XIII] [26]
14 Edwin Rosario May 1, 1983 Lightweight (M & M 2) and light welterweight (M) 3 and 0 [XIV] [27]
15 Héctor Camacho August 7, 1983 Super featherweight (M), lightweight (M), light welterweight (M), welterweight (m), middleweight (m), light middleweight (m & m) and super middleweight (m) 1, 2, 3, 3, 1, 0 and 0 [XV] [28]
16 Mark Medal † March 11, 1984 Light middleweight (M) 0 [XVI] [29]
17 Harry Arroyo † April 15, 1984 Lightweight (M) 2 [XVII] [30]
18 Victor Callejas May 26, 1984 Super bantamweight (M) 2 [XVIII] [31]
19 Carlos Santos November 2, 1984 Light middleweight (M) 1 [XIX] [32]
20 Antonio Rivera August 30, 1986 Featherweight (M) 0 [XX] [33]
21 Wilfredo Vázquez October 4, 1987 Bantamweight (M), super bantamweight (M) and featherweight (M) 1, 9 and 4 [XXI] [34]
22 José Ruíz Matos April 29, 1989 Super flyweight (M) 4 [XXII] [35]
23 John John Molina April 29, 1989 Super featherweight (M & M 2) and lightweight (m) 7 and 0 [XXIII] [36]
24 José De Jesús May 19, 1989 Light flyweight (M) 3 [XXIV] [37]
25 Juan Nazario April 4, 1990 Lightweight (M) 0 [XXV] [38]
26 Orlando Fernández May 12, 1990 Super bantamweight (M & m) 1 [XXVI] [38]
27 Santos Cardona April 11, 1991 Welterweight (m) and light middleweight (m) 0 [XXVII] [38]
28 Danny García February 1, 1992 Middleweight (m) 0 [XXVIII] [38]
29 Rafael del Valle May 13, 1992 Bantamweight (M) 2 [XXIX] [38]
30 Felix Camacho May 27, 1992 Super bantamweight (m) 0 [XXX] [38]
31 Josué Camacho July 31, 1992 Light flyweight (M) 1 [XXXI] [38]
32 Daniel Jiménez June 9, 1993 Bantamweight (M) and super bantamweight (M) 4 and 0 [XXXII] [38]
33 Félix Trinidad June 19, 1993 Welterweight (M & M), light middleweight (M & M) and middleweight (M) 17, 2 and 0 [XXXIII] [39]
34 Kevin Kelley † December 4, 1993 Featherweight (M) 7 [XXXIV] [40]
35 Alex Sánchez December 22, 1993 Minimumweight (M) 6 [XXXV] [38]
36 Jake Rodríguez February 13, 1994 Light welterweight (M) 2 [XXXVI] [38]
37 Sammy Fuentes November 7, 1994 Light welterweight (M) 2 [XXXVII] [38]
38 Ángel Almena July 29, 1995 Super flyweight (m) and flyweight (m) 0 and 0 [XXXVIII] [38]
39 Israel Cardona † August 25, 1995 Super featherweight (m) and light welterweight (m) 1 and 0 [XXXIX] [41]
40 Angel Manfredy † November 18, 1995 Super featherweight (m) 6 [XL] [38]
41 Frank Toledo † June 9, 1996 Super bantamweight (m) and featherweight (M) 0 and 0 [XLI] [38]
42 David Santos † April 5, 1997 Featherweight (m) 0 [XLII] [40]
43 José Antonio Rivera † April 25, 1997 Welterweight (M) and light middleweight (M) 0 [XLIII] [38]
44 Lou Del Valle † September 20, 1997 Light heavyweight (M) 0 [XLIV] [38]
45 Eric Morel October 17, 1998 Super flyweight (M) and bantamweight (IM) 7 and 0 [XLV] [38]
46 Daniel Santos May 6, 2000 Welterweight (M) and light middleweight (M, m & M) 2 and 4 [XLVI] [38]
47 Nelson Dieppa July 22, 2000 Light flyweight (M) 5 [XLVII] [42]
48 John Ruiz † March 3, 2001 Heavyweight (M 2) 4 [XLVIII] [38]
49 Aléx Trujillo May 5, 2001 Light welterweight (m 2) 0 [XLVIX] [38]
50 Ángel Chacón October 27, 2002 Featherweight (m) 0 [L] [38]
51 Iván Calderón May 3, 2003 Minimumweight (M) and light flyweight (M & L) 11 and 4 [LI] [43][44]
52 Manny Siaca May 5, 2004 Super middleweight (M) 0 [LII] [45]
53 Miguel Cotto † September 11, 2004 Light welterweight (M) and welterweight (M & M) 5 and 5 [LIII] [46][47]
54 Luis Collazo † April 2, 2005 Welterweight (M) 1 [LIV] [48]
55 Kermit Cintrón October 28, 2006 Welterweight (IM & M) 2 [LV] [49]
56 Carlos Quintana February 9, 2008 Welterweight (M) 0 [LVI] [50]
57 Orlando Cruz March 22, 2008 Featherweight (m) 0 [LVII] [51]
58 Victor Fonseca March 22, 2008 Bantamweight (m) 1 [LVIII] [51]
59 Juan Manuel López June 7, 2008 Super bantamweight (M) and featherweight (M) 5 and 0 [LVIX] [52]
60 Román Martínez March 14, 2009 Super featherweight (M) 1 [LX] [53]
61 José López March 28, 2009 Super flyweight (M) 0 [LXI] [54]
62 César Seda, Jr. September 18, 2009 Flyweight (m) 0 [LXII] [55]
63 Wilfredo Vázquez, Jr. February 27, 2010 Super bantamweight (M)Comment
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