Is Floyd The Best Fighter In The Last 30 Years?

[DLT]

Are you saying that the only reason that Whitaker is arguably better is cuz he is a southpaw?

Are we making excuses now?

Give me you top 10 greatest fighters of all time. I want to see how many southpaws you have there. You can't give me a top 30 and have more than 3 southpaws there.

Also if being a southpaw also was a HUGE advantage then why didn't Oscar fight in that stance?

Im not making excuses. Im the biggest Sweet Pea fan there is. Im also like Oscar in that Im a righty who fights lefty. My brother is a true lefty. I think being a lefty is an advantage in a ton of sports including basketball. That still doesnt mean they are just going to dominate everything. Righties still outnumber them by a mile but you cant act like its not an advantage. There is a reason why until the Mosley fight, Floyd had only been hurt by Zab & Chop. There is a reason why Wlad got murdered by Sanders and I think he wouldve beat Vitali also if he were in any kind of shape.

Its like Foreman use to say. You think your out of range against a Southpaw but they can still hit you. I saw MAB do a great defensive move where no righty could hit him, yet Pac catches him square on the chin. I saw RJ run a perfect defense that he's done his whole career and he clearly see's the Tarver punch coming but still gets caught flush. The same with Floyd vs Chop on one of the other punches that buckled him. Not the big one but one of the others. Floyd saw it coming, put up his perfect D, and still got hit flush. It hurts even more from them because either you dont see it coming or you see it and still cant stop it.

Even Calzaghe admitted that it was a big advantage for him. The fact is Southpaws face righties all there life but righties rarely face Southpaws. You may have 50 fights and you will be lucky if 5 of them are against a Southpaw. Everything is backwards. You do normal moves to get you out of range and they still catch you. Floyd cant use the shoulder roll because the Southpaw shot will always come down the pipe with the straight left but Floyd holds his glove at the side of his head which blocks all hooks from the righties. Its an advantage and I dont think people talk about it enough. Thats the reason why Senior said he never wanted Floyd in with a Lefty and he still says it till this day.

Thats what makes Pac dangerous for him. Again, look at Pac vs JMM. Everytime he dropped him was because of Southpaw ****. It wasnt pure power. Its just JMM getting adjusted to that Southpaw **** and he's catching. People keep talking about Pac's angles but thats BS. Its just Southpaw. Thats the angle. Then JMM adjust and he comes back. Thats why I say that Pac may have a chance to stop Floyd early. He's not going to beat Floyd in a 12 round fight. He either has to stop him in the first 4 rounds or hurt him so bad that in lingers like Forrest did Mosley. After that Floyd will adjust & catch his rythm

[jrosales13]

Im not making excuses. Im the biggest Sweet Pea fan there is. Im also like Oscar in that Im a righty who fights lefty. My brother is a true lefty. I think being a lefty is an advantage in a ton of sports including basketball. That still doesnt mean they are just going to dominate everything. Righties still outnumber them by a mile but you cant act like its not an advantage. There is a reason why until the Mosley fight, Floyd had only been hurt by Zab & Chop. There is a reason why Wlad got murdered by Sanders and I think he wouldve beat Vitali also if he were in any kind of shape.

Its like Foreman use to say. You think your out of range against a Southpaw but they can still hit you. I saw MAB do a great defensive move where no righty could hit him, yet Pac catches him square on the chin. I saw RJ run a perfect defense that he's done his whole career and he clearly see's the Tarver punch coming but still gets caught flush. The same with Floyd vs Chop on one of the other punches that buckled him. Not the big one but one of the others. Floyd saw it coming, put up his perfect D, and still got hit flush. It hurts even more from them because either you dont see it coming or you see it and still cant stop it.

Even Calzaghe admitted that it was a big advantage for him. The fact is Southpaws face righties all there life but righties rarely face Southpaws. You may have 50 fights and you will be lucky if 5 of them are against a Southpaw. Everything is backwards. You do normal moves to get you out of range and they still catch you. Floyd cant use the shoulder roll because the Southpaw shot will always come down the pipe with the straight left but Floyd holds his glove at the side of his head which blocks all hooks from the righties. Its an advantage and I dont think people talk about it enough. Thats the reason why Senior said he never wanted Floyd in with a Lefty and he still says it till this day.

Thats what makes Pac dangerous for him. Again, look at Pac vs JMM. Everytime he dropped him was because of Southpaw ****. It wasnt pure power. Its just JMM getting adjusted to that Southpaw **** and he's catching. People keep talking about Pac's angles but thats BS. Its just Southpaw. Thats the angle. Then JMM adjust and he comes back. Thats why I say that Pac may have a chance to stop Floyd early. He's not going to beat Floyd in a 12 round fight. He either has to stop him in the first 4 rounds or hurt him so bad that in lingers like Forrest did Mosley. After that Floyd will adjust & catch his rythm

It is an advantage but it is not a HUGE advantage to make it seem the only reason Whitaker would beat Floyd is cuz he is a southpaw. No it is because Whitaker is that damn great. If Whitaker beat him it is more cuz he was just overall the better fighter not cuz he is a southpaw.

I think Whitaker is in the top 3 greatest defensive fighter of all time. Top of the mountain defensive wise IMO is Pep, Locche, and Whitaker in any order you want. Whitaker stance has nothing to do with that. It is that the man was awesome overall.

[jrosales13]

Boxers, not writers, tend to believe Mayweather > Pac. //////////

Not all boxers. But, of course I know the boxers who don't pick Floyd are either haters or jealous of the man success. I get it....

[minasyan]

no way first of all he wasn't in the last ten years and the second point is that he says himself he doesn't care about his legacy and who he fights, a person like this will never be the greatest

[rommel357]

I find it very amusing that just because Gayweather had finally fought a true "welterweight" and beat one since 2006, all of a sudden he's the best in 30yrs or even 100yrs. *****s are just ****ing delusional and riding Gayweather's nutsack way too much. Calm the **** down *****s, Floyd is a great fighter no doubt about it and definitely at least top 20 ATG if not better, but don't get too excited and get ahead of yourselves. Great fighters with losses have bounced back and that's what makes them great, having 0 loss does not make one the greatest.

[the gent]

And they would all have to weigh 142 Max for Pacquiao to get in the ring with them.

That is just dumb..really?

[Michael Hall]

Floyd is the best since Sweetpea. Sweetpea was better though. Pea had a GORILLA chin and was flat out the best pure boxer I've ever witnessed. Way better than Ali.

[Michael Hall]

I find it very amusing that just because Gayweather had finally fought a true "welterweight" and beat one since 2006, all of a sudden he's the best in 30yrs or even 100yrs. *****s are just ****ing delusional and riding Gayweather's nutsack way too much. Calm the **** down *****s, Floyd is a great fighter no doubt about it and definitely at least top 20 ATG if not better, but don't get too excited and get ahead of yourselves. Great fighters with losses have bounced back and that's what makes them great, having 0 loss does not make one the greatest.

*******S did the same thing after Pacquiao beat Cotto.

"Pacquiao's name can be mentioned in the same breath as SRL, SRR, ALI"

Do you remember those threads?

[rommel357]

*******S did the same thing after Pacquiao beat Cotto.

"Pacquiao's name can be mentioned in the same breath as SRL, SRR, ALI"

Do you remember those threads?

Who ever thinks or is convinced that Manny is "The Greatest" of all time or even the greatest in 30 yrs, is just as delusional as the *****s that thinks the same of Gayweather. But there is no question IMO that Manny is the greatest of his time, right now, period. But i will concede that if Floyd beats Manny, Floyd would automatically take that spot, no question about it.

[wpink1]

All the boxing greats have loses, most of them way before they made it 41 fights. Floyd is the best boxer in the last 100 years.

****** post. All the greats fought better fighters too. Can you imagine prime leoanrd fighting instead of duran, hearns, Hagler, benetiz, fighting 36 year old dlh, 38 year old Mosley, Hatton, Jmm....

You tell me who at welter weight was better, stronger, beat better opponents, faster, better closer.....etc. People pick mosley and have no idea how great Peak leonard was.

And for the crack heads that even dream that Mayweather could beat Hearns. Are you freaking nuts. 1st off mayweather will not even fight Williams (a poor mans hearns with out a punch). Mayweather would have to deal with the reach, jab, right hand and left hook... Bad Bad Match up, to beat hearns mayweather would have to ko him, and that would not happen, by lionel richie fisted Mayweather.