Why does Floyd have to win 7 titles to be great?

[Khalid X]

Belts don't mean a thing. I mean as Mayweather said "I'm really the WBA champ, Just saying". Even Mayweather's accomplishments tend to be overrated, I mean Gatti? Really?. **** David Diaz had a belt, ignore all that. Talk to me about opposition. You still haven't comvinced me Pacquiao accomplished "Way more".

Man honestly stop listening to Floyd. They may not mean much to you and me (IMO they do btw) but to the writers and the people who make these ATG list they do.

Why do you think Armstrong is so high? It's because he held 3 titles in 3 weight classes at once. You don't think belts meant alot to those guys when Judging Armstrong's career and accomplishments. Also Haglar defenses of the MW title and B-hops as well will leave a huge mental impression on voters as well as Roy winning a title at MW then at HW.

I mean in Reality Pac beat the best guys almost all of those times for those belts. If they weren't the best they were in the top 3 which is still great. I get what you mean in the sense that if he beat a clown like javek for a WW strap or just a belt holder, but those guys were legit fighters in their division (Maybe David Diaz but I digress)

[IMDAZED]

Exaclty I bring that up alot. They say Pac is great because of the 7 belts. Then I say well is Oscar right after?

Like I said, it's who you beat and when you beat 'em. For all his belts, Oscar isn't even in the discussion. Likewise, don't tell me about a Fighter of the Decade Award (do people realize Joe Calzaghe was in the running for that?) or all of that. Just tell me who he beat, who he lost to, when and how. Simple.

[Ravishing]

He ignores anyone who who debates him and makes him look foolish.

Then you should be the better man homie and just ignore him if there's nothing to really debate.

You're guilty sometimes of the same stuff he's doing, so it doesn't really help if you're playin along.

Anyone who's a genuine Boxing fan knows Floyd is a great fighter.

[IMDAZED]

Man honestly stop listening to Floyd. They may not mean much to you and me (IMO they do btw) but to the writers and the people who make these ATG list they do.

They don't mean much to writers. They are just the ones who get to vote. Trust me, no writer debates saying, "He won Fighter of the Decade!" That's for message boards like this.

Why do you think Armstrong is so high? It's because he held 3 titles in 3 weight classes at once. You don't think belts meant alot to those guys when Judging Armstrong's career and accomplishments. Also Haglar defenses of the MW title and B-hops as well will leave a huge mental impression on voters as well as Roy winning a title at MW then at HW.

Those are terrible examples. Hagler was the undisputed champ in his division. So was B-Hop. Belts are only as good as the waist its on.

I mean in Reality Pac beat the best guys almost all of those times for those belts. If they weren't the best they were in the top 3 which is still great. I get what you mean in the sense that if he beat a clown like javek for a WW strap or just a belt holder, but those guys were legit fighters in their division (Maybe David Diaz but I digress).

David Diaz wasn't legit. And it's debatable who was tops at 135 or 140. I mean, was Ricky Hatton really the top 140lber? Hell no. Did Pacquiao ever beat the top 147lber? Hell no. That's just the way it goes.

[Khalid X]

Exaclty I bring that up alot. They say Pac is great because of the 7 belts. Then I say well is Oscar right after?

That's only one piece of the puzzle. Not only the titles, but the linear/ring belts, wins, FOTD, FOTY and other accomplishments as well.

against his HOF peers Pac went 5-1-1 which is no slouch. You check DLH record and it might be 3-7 or something ridiculous like that

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

That's only one piece of the puzzle. Not only the titles, but the linear/ring belts, wins, FOTD, FOTY and other accomplishments as well.

against his HOF peers Pac went 5-1-1 which is no slouch. You check DLH record and it might be 3-7 or something ridiculous like that

Dont get me wrong Pac has put in work but some guys just use that as a basis for ranking him up there with guys like Pep and SRR. Pacs skill, talent and greatness will be tested when he fights Mayweather. That fight will show me alot about how good Pacquiao and Floyd really is.

[IMDAZED]

That's only one piece of the puzzle. Not only the titles, but the linear/ring belts, wins, FOTD, FOTY and other accomplishments as well.

against his HOF peers Pac went 5-1-1 which is no slouch. You check DLH record and it might be 3-7 or something ridiculous like that

Again, Osiris. This is all subjective - and requires serious thinking, not blanket statements like that. For instance...

Manny Pacquiao beat a HOF'er in Morales. When Morales was done. Caput. But Pacquiao did beat a HOF'er in Morales. Like...after Raheem beat him up when he moved up. Like...after he moved back down just for the payday. Like...after Morales had already beat him.

Who and when.

Who and when.

Who and when.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Man honestly stop listening to Floyd. They may not mean much to you and me (IMO they do btw) but to the writers and the people who make these ATG list they do.

Why do you think Armstrong is so high? It's because he held 3 titles in 3 weight classes at once. You don't think belts meant alot to those guys when Judging Armstrong's career and accomplishments. Also Haglar defenses of the MW title and B-hops as well will leave a huge mental impression on voters as well as Roy winning a title at MW then at HW.

I mean in Reality Pac beat the best guys almost all of those times for those belts. If they weren't the best they were in the top 3 which is still great. I get what you mean in the sense that if he beat a clown like javek for a WW strap or just a belt holder, but those guys were legit fighters in their division (Maybe David Diaz but I digress)

There is so much more to consider. For example, Cotto's WBO being on the line at 145. **** people don't forget that Lalonde's LHW title was on the line against Leonard and they faught at 168!

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Then you should be the better man homie and just ignore him if there's nothing to really debate.

You're guilty sometimes of the same stuff he's doing, so it doesn't really help if you're playin along.

Anyone who's a genuine Boxing fan knows Floyd is a great fighter.

No unfortunately Im not. I ONLY ignore people who rather talk about the poster and troll rather then topic at hand.

[GT-R]

Bottom line is Floyd dont give a **** about *****s and titles. He fights for checks. Skills pay the bills, Belts collect dust, the garbageman is still unpaid.

So why are you guys fighting for him again?