Why does Floyd have to win 7 titles to be great?

[Wreckless]

It's useless to post in Mayweather threads. *****s make the same posts over and over.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

It's useless to post in Mayweather threads. *****s make the same posts over and over.

Do you have anything to add other than childish "*****" talk?

[Khalid X]

Hatton was a better champ than Baldomir. And believe me, I don't think much of Baldomir. But Ricky Hatton was damaged goods. He was not the Hatton of before. Like Baldomir, he wasn't the best fighter at 140.

As for cherry picking, David Diaz was the epitome of cherry picking. Fighting no one at 140 but Hatton was cherry picking. And choosing Cotto over Mosley--when everyone regarded Mosley as the bigger threat (hello! It's too early to try to change history ) was cherry picking.

I agree that Diaz was feed to Pacquiao by Arum. I won't argue with you on that one...lol

As far as Cotto vs Shane, I can see why you would say that. A very good argument could be made on Shane's behalf but at the same time there would have always been those select few that would have asked "Why did Pac fight a guy who lost to Cotto".

Not saying you would have, but to fight either over the other in my book isn't that big of a deal because I see them as being on the same level, at that (especially considering Cotto was out boxing Tony and the way that whole hand wrap scandal unfolded). I don't know I guess we can agree to disagree on that one, because we could debate that for hours...lol

[IMDAZED]

Do you have anything to add other than childish "*****" talk?

They're out of their league in a real debate.

[Wreckless]

They're out of their league in a real debate.

There's no real debate when you posts the same nonsense over and over.

[IMDAZED]

I agree that Diaz was feed to Pacquiao by Arum. I won't argue with you on that one...lol

As far as Cotto vs Shane, I can see why you would say that. A very good argument could be made on Shane's behalf but at the same time there would have always been those select few that would have asked "Why did Pac fight a guy who lost to Cotto".

Not saying you would have, but to fight either over the other in my book isn't that big of a deal because I see them as being on the same level, at that (especially considering Cotto was out boxing Tony and the way that whole hand wrap scandal unfolded). I don't know I guess we can agree to disagree on that one, because we could debate that for hours...lol

That's just false. Pull up old threads. Find old articles. NO ONE...I mean NO ONE (except the ******?) thought Cotto was a bigger threat than Mosley at that time. Mosley was considered the biggest threat at 147. By far. I don't understand why we're trying to rewrite history here. I just don't.

[Doctor_Tenma]

I agree it's not the same thing (as far as comparing it to Armstrong) but at the same time a fighter can only control what is in front of him. Hatton was the best guy at 140. No way could anybody make an arguement that Bradley or Ortiz were more deserving to be ranked higher otherwise they would have been the lineal/ring champ.

As far as Cotto & Molsey. Cotto beat Mosley regardless of when it happened an was on a better run at WW than Shane. Shane did beat Marg...so that is why I say it's debatable as to who is better. People say Cotto got the **** beat out of him by Tony, but Honestly Shane got crushed by Forrest twice at WW.

Shane didn't get crushed in the rematch. The rematch was alot more competitive. Also it's not like Shane lost that bad against Cotto, it was close.

[IMDAZED]

There's no real debate when you posts the same nonsense over and over.

Well it just looks the same to you .

[brick wall]

Pac's best win was against MAB and that was years ago.

He beat a damage goods fighter in Cotto, weight drained past prime DLH, overrated and shot Hatton, B-level fighter in Clottey who has no offense, etc. Got schooled by JMM and EK. Beat a shot and weight drained EK.

A win over a prime Pac is better than another fighter Manny beat.

Wins over a prime Pac, prime Martinez, very good fighter in Mosley, and someone like Berto/Williams would make his resume a lot better.

that's just plain ****** right there. when you and the other haters try to defend floyd's demand it's because of pac's recent success against bigger opponents which is quite extraordinary and therefore su****ious. he did it because of peds blah blah blah. so how in the world a win against weight drained, shot, past prime or overrated fighters be su****ious? is it really su****ious or floyd is just playing diva and making up excuses not to fight? really some *****s arguments here are oxymoronic and self ownage.

[IMDAZED]

Shane didn't get crushed in the rematch. The rematch was alot more competitive. Also it's not like Shane lost that bad against Cotto, it was close.

Yeah, a lot of people thought Shane won the rematch actually.