Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Pacquiao Negotiations To Begin This Week

[PRBOXINGCOTTO]

arum n roach n pac better stop acten like they control this fight cuz ya dont n attitudes like that is wats gonna kill the fight take the test n stop crying ure gonna lose to floyd anyway

[daairupthur13]

so floyd was dumb to fight in the past (40 of his fights) since he did'nt need OST back then?..........lol

well when your not a mega star if you demand things nobody would listen to him he became a huge star after oscar...so only fights he really could of made any noise where it would stick would be for marquez and hatton and he might of thought they were on anything you cant say who hes allowed to think who might or might not be on something its his opinion and pac did jump up threw weight since ariza came apart of their team and kept his power and ariza is banned fromt he olympics so with that happening you can say let me be safe and make sure thats natural power so he said we both taken random testing and they BOTH agreed then pac changed his mind after he got what he want and made horrible excuses so it made it look like he could be on something so its smart for him to have had the hunch because with those lame excuses he just might be on something but hey we will neevr know if he does not take the test so right now he is innocent until proven guilty but this is america so you know your actually guilty until proven innocent lol

[daairupthur13]

floyd fought mosley with 8oz gloves, judah too, at welterweight. I dont know what the gloves sizes for JMM and Hatton were, but they were probably the same. Its well documented that he was complaining about the 10oz gloves against ODLH.

So explain, how is that floyd giving into mannys demands.

And why did floyd originally want to fight manny at 10oz gloves if he fought the other WWs at 8oz.

he liked the 10oz glvoes because of his hand problems and he did say 10oz pillows that oscar picked for him he said they should of let him atleast picked his own gloves thats why it was a problem more and if mayweather wants to sue the welter weight size gloves of 10oz it shouldnt be a problem because thats what he suppose to use anyways so that shouldnt be an issue at all if he request for the right size gloves the issue is manny wanted 8oz and the commission says 10 which floyd wanted and he didnt get what he want even though the commission says 10 is what they suppose to use it shouldnt matter if mayweather fought with 16oz or 4oz glvoes before it dosnt matter if he wants to use the regulation size for that fight

[Baba Konuwa]

at 147 you wear 8oz
50-50 should always be the split, both guys have a good fan base to bring in the dough

10 mil over every pound is understandable because of how floyd came in over with jmm.....although it wont be a problem, he was on point for the mosley fight, no probs.

we just need this fight to happen.

hopefully a legit and fair cutoff date will be agreed upon.

if it doesnt happen there is no one out there to give floyd a run for his money, other than prob sergio at 154

formarkiz and daairupthur13 are both right the commission rules state the use of 10 oz gloves at 147 and also have penalties for fighters coming in over weight, however it's not uncommon for fighters to set additional penalties which benefit the opponent if the fighter comes in over weight, hence Mayweather paying 300K for every pound over 144 against Marquez. However it is uncommon and ridiculous to ask for 10 million dollars for every pound over weight. But lets keep in mind that Floyd NEVER comes in overweight and is always at or below weight when he comes in to camp, as Max Kellerman stated because he trains like a Fiend. He did come in at 146 rather then @ the catch weight of 144 but he chose to be comfortable rather than lose another 2 lbs. Now we know Freddie Roach has built Manny into a killer by making his opponents fight at catch weights well under the required weight in the divisions they fight in. He brought Eric Morales back down to 130 when he could no longer make the weight, he brought Del La Hoya down to 147 when he hasn't fought @ 147 in years and was no way a Welterweight at that age, he fought Miguel Cotto @ 145 instead of 147, for a welterweight belt, and he fought Rick Hatton who really struggled to make 140. Now when you say you hope they can agree to a fair cut off date , I have to ask you how is getting tested up to a week before the fight unfair? What's unfair is a fighter using enhancement drugs to improve endurance and strength. So the only thing that would be unfair is a fighter not agreeing to being tested for modern PED's thoroughly if his opponent is willing to do so.

[xaviertooth]

it gives an advantage because theres no way manny coming in voer weight and flloyd has to cut to amke weight which he will make no problem and floyd fights with 10oz gloves not 8 oz so if floyd is use to 10 and manny is use to 8oz glvoes you dont think he will have some type of advantage and floyd aslo gave into a smaller ring size so that will help manny cut off the ring better how can that not help manny out??

so why did floyd came 2 pounds over in jmm fight? on a catchweight? and where did you get that info that floyd will be wearing 10oz and manny 8oz, as i mentioned, both will wear 8oz glove.

you admit that manny never overweight in all his fight, then kodus for being honest.

[jtiger78]

formarkiz and daairupthur13 are both right the commission rules state the use of 10 oz gloves at 147 and also have penalties for fighters coming in over weight, however it's not uncommon for fighters to set additional penalties which benefit the opponent if the fighter comes in over weight, hence Mayweather paying 300K for every pound over 144 against Marquez. However it is uncommon and ridiculous to ask for 10 million dollars for every pound over weight. But lets keep in mind that Floyd NEVER comes in overweight and is always at or below weight when he comes in to camp, as Max Kellerman stated because he trains like a Fiend. He did come in at 146 rather then @ the catch weight of 144 but he chose to be comfortable rather than lose another 2 lbs. Now we know Freddie Roach has built Manny into a killer by making his opponents fight at catch weights well under the required weight in the divisions they fight in. He brought Eric Morales back down to 130 when he could no longer make the weight, he brought Del La Hoya down to 147 when he hasn't fought @ 147 in years and was no way a Welterweight at that age, he fought Miguel Cotto @ 145 instead of 147, for a welterweight belt, and he fought Rick Hatton who really struggled to make 140. Now when you say you hope they can agree to a fair cut off date , I have to ask you how is getting tested up to a week before the fight unfair? What's unfair is a fighter using enhancement drugs to improve endurance and strength. So the only thing that would be unfair is a fighter not agreeing to being tested for modern PED's thoroughly if his opponent is willing to do so.

agreed great post!!!!!

[daairupthur13]

very well put the only thing i would do if i was mayweather to show i want the fight bad is give manny a 3day cut off for the fight so thats 72hrs to recover and then a test right after the fight so that shows you are ebing understanding if he is going to be weak for a day maybe two and your stil making sure hes clean you dont need 24days to recover or even 14days mayweather to me was being way to fair on the cut off date but he was trying to make the fight that he did do a 14day cut off by splitting it down the middle and on top of it signing his end of the contract when they brought it to the judge and manny team said no and lied about it and the judge even made statments saying arum lied about what went on so i dont know how a guy is afraid of someone who compromise on eevrything last time even his one thing he wanted so badly and signed the contract if he was scared many should of signed and call mayweather bluff and kicked his ass but he didnt for w.e reason so that scared crap is weak mosley hits harder then pac and mayweather fought him no problem

[xaviertooth]

formarkiz and daairupthur13 are both right the commission rules state the use of 10 oz gloves at 147 and also have penalties for fighters coming in over weight, however it's not uncommon for fighters to set additional penalties which benefit the opponent if the fighter comes in over weight, hence Mayweather paying 300K for every pound over 144 against Marquez. However it is uncommon and ridiculous to ask for 10 million dollars for every pound over weight. But lets keep in mind that Floyd NEVER comes in overweight and is always at or below weight when he comes in to camp, as Max Kellerman stated because he trains like a Fiend. He did come in at 146 rather then @ the catch weight of 144 but he chose to be comfortable rather than lose another 2 lbs. Now we know Freddie Roach has built Manny into a killer by making his opponents fight at catch weights well under the required weight in the divisions they fight in. He brought Eric Morales back down to 130 when he could no longer make the weight, he brought Del La Hoya down to 147 when he hasn't fought @ 147 in years and was no way a Welterweight at that age, he fought Miguel Cotto @ 145 instead of 147, for a welterweight belt, and he fought Rick Hatton who really struggled to make 140. Now when you say you hope they can agree to a fair cut off date , I have to ask you how is getting tested up to a week before the fight unfair? What's unfair is a fighter using enhancement drugs to improve endurance and strength. So the only thing that would be unfair is a fighter not agreeing to being tested for modern PED's thoroughly if his opponent is willing to do so.

wt... pacquiao just fought only once on a catchweight and that's with cotto. you are defining a new meaning of catchweight and you are putting so much twist into it.

[shogunn]

he liked the 10oz glvoes because of his hand problems and he did say 10oz pillows that oscar picked for him he said they should of let him atleast picked his own gloves thats why it was a problem more and if mayweather wants to sue the welter weight size gloves of 10oz it shouldnt be a problem because thats what he suppose to use anyways so that shouldnt be an issue at all if he request for the right size gloves the issue is manny wanted 8oz and the commission says 10 which floyd wanted and he didnt get what he want even though the commission says 10 is what they suppose to use it shouldnt matter if mayweather fought with 16oz or 4oz glvoes before it dosnt matter if he wants to use the regulation size for that fight

That is the longest sentence Ive ever seen

And....floyd fought mosley with 8oz gloves... so why the **** are you still defending it?

Floyd doesnt fight with 10oz, the excuse about his hands doesnt hold weight.

Floyd requested the fight with manny at 10 oz gloves, yet every other fight he fights with 8. You dumb floyd fans were telling us he was giving into Manny when this wasnt the case.

Again, if you dont understand this, dont respond. I dont want to read a long winded sentence again that makes zero sense.

[daairupthur13]

so why did floyd came 2 pounds over in jmm fight? on a catchweight? and where did you get that info that floyd will be wearing 10oz and manny 8oz, as i mentioned, both will wear 8oz glove.

you admit that manny never overweight in all his fight, then kodus for being honest.

no i didnt say floyd would be wearing 10 and pac 8 i was saying floyd wanted 10oz which is what the commission has but manny wanted 8oz glvoes and mayweather gave in and the commission has its rules that they will pay a fee if they cant make weight and will not be allowed tof ight and wil be a lost ..mayweather offerd money and marquez took it dont blame mayweather cuz marquez seen dollar signs and took it isntead of making mayweather but hiss ass and cut the 2pounds..and actually manny did have problems back in the day making weight but you cant hold that against him cuz that was years ago and i dont its a good excuse for you to hold a catch weight against mayweather he came in at 146 which the welter wegith lmit is 147 so he never had a problem making welter wegith correct just a catch weight which im sure he will never agree to again