if youre so confident of beating a guy.......

[The Big Dunn]

that's another irony right there...most floyd fans are saying that all pac did was beat either old or washed up fighters at higher weights but for you it's totally different. you make it sound like pac's recent success is close to impossible. but kidding aside i'm too was a bit surprised at pac's sucess at 140 and 147 but i will not consider it like it wasn't done before. have you seen how a past prime duran decked and beat a much bigger and stronger iran barkley who just ko'd hearns? or how leonard beat a very powerful and much bigger hagler after coming out of long layoff?

I'm not most floyd fans.I'm asking legitimate questions. Yes, its almost genetically impossible.

Leonard didn't beat Hagler. he rallied at the end of each round and , as Leonard put it "stole rounds". yes duran beat barkley and davey moore. Those were the accumulation of punches. He didn't have his 1 punch ko power he had at LW.

Conversely, Hearns and Hagler beat the **** out of duran. Duran could always take punches. but fighting bigger men with power he couldn't. He also didn't look as fast either.

[baracuda]

Thread starter has a point. Mayweather doesn't believe pacquiao can possibly be that good, Period.

for real........i'll fight packy only if theres OST.....that does'nt sound like a confident guy to somoeone with common sense!

[The Big Dunn]

for real........i'll fight packy only if theres OST.....that does'nt sound like a confident guy to somoeone with common sense!

Huh? Sounds like he thinks Pac is cheating! Sounds like he thinks if Pac can't use PED's that he doesn't think Pac can beat him.

[brick wall]

Part of the commish rule is also to be fined if u come in over weight. And the reason Floyd is cleaning his fights (I don't believe he's cleaning the sport, just his fights) is its easy to cheat the commish test. We have all seen this ****e in Mannys performance, everyone has to admit that.

And Manny is very easy work for Floyd, he's been a Pac fan. He's been watching and following Pac as a fan. Now its time to get it in and Floyd knows what's up, we all do.
Manny takes the test, he bocomes the guy we have always seen. Prior to the Diaz fight, before Alex and his secret special blend.

Btw:
Why hasn't Alex put that blend on the market yet? He'd be a billionair by now (if its all natual like he claims)
Kinda funny to me

that's a dumb assumption right there...if pac's taking in a special peds that work wonders for him he shoulda shared it with his brother bobby so the latter could have at least a bit of success with his own career. bobby also trains at wcg and he's still a bum.

[The Big Dunn]

that's a dumb assumption right there...if pac's taking in a special peds that work wonders for him he shoulda shared it with his brother bobby so the latter could have at least a bit of success with his own career. bobby also trains at wcg and he's still a bum.

The point about Bobby is interesting.

[baracuda]

Huh? Sounds like he thinks Pac is cheating! Sounds like he thinks if Pac can't use PED's that he doesn't think Pac can beat him.

yet he says hell beat packy easy only if theres OST.....that means without OST, he aint confident in beating pac....

[The Big Dunn]

yet he says hell beat packy easy only if theres OST.....that means without OST, he aint confident in beating pac....

Ok. Would you be confident if you thought yuor opponent was cheating?

[brick wall]

I'm not most floyd fans.I'm asking legitimate questions. Yes, its almost genetically impossible.

Leonard didn't beat Hagler. he rallied at the end of each round and , as Leonard put it "stole rounds". yes duran beat barkley and davey moore. Those were the accumulation of punches. He didn't have his 1 punch ko power he had at LW.

Conversely, Hearns and Hagler beat the **** out of duran. Duran could always take punches. but fighting bigger men with power he couldn't. He also didn't look as fast either.

the thing with pac is he never had an amateur background, he doesn't have good fundamentals like floyd. his boxing prowess grew as he went up in weight and he happened to find a trainer that corrected his flaws and enhanced his strengths. for me it's nothing extraordinary about it. the guy always has speed and power but not really a 1 punch ko power. except hatton all his ko wins has been caused by accumulation of punches.

[The Big Dunn]

the thing with pac is he never had an amateur background, he doesn't have good fundamentals like floyd. his boxing prowess grew as he went up in weight and he happened to find a trainer that corrected his flaws and enhanced his strengths. for me it's nothing extraordinary about it. the guy always has speed and power but not really a 1 punch ko power. except hatton all his ko wins has been caused by accumulation of punches.

I respectfully disagree but this is a very reasonable response.

[DR.ORGYY]

Exactly......it just doesnt make sense.....