Larry Merchants Comments on Sat Night re: May vs. Pac

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  • Roy Keane
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    #41
    Dont like merchant never have he is so boring its unreal its like waiting for the end of time when he being one of his long drawn out ramblings

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #42
      Originally posted by Spray_resistant
      I think its spot on, sounds like a duck to me if he had no solid basis to ask this guy specifically for extra test as opposed other fighters before none of which were given a great chance of beating Floyd unlike Pac......seems like a bit more than a coincidence.
      Does the fact tha Pac has gotten faster and more powerful as he has moved up, which quite frankly has never happened in boxing, concern you in the least?

      Great fighters move up but almost all have their ko% drop because they are hitting bigger guys. Manny is knocking out guys at 145 but couldn't kojmm at 130 or 135.

      Just asking!

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        #43
        Originally posted by Big Dunn
        Does the fact tha Pac has gotten faster and more powerful as he has moved up, which quite frankly has never happened in boxing, concern you in the least?

        Great fighters move up but almost all have their ko% drop because they are hitting bigger guys. Manny is knocking out guys at 145 but couldn't kojmm at 130 or 135.

        Just asking!
        No not at all because he has not really gotten faster than he was when fighting at 130, he is just cutting less weight or in this case no weight at all now and surely would feel better and stronger on FN after not going through that process.

        That though has nothing to do with Floyd asking for the tests and why really because we don't know whats in Floyd's mind. There are no facts other than he initially started this whole mess and Pac could not have refused if he didn't ask.

        Its all opinion which is what you were asking about in this thread anyway and if the fight doesn't happen I will be of the opinion that Floyd used this demand to duck Pac.....nothing anyone says will change my view on that.

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        • Everlast2900
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          #44
          Preach on bro!!

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            #45
            Originally posted by Spray_resistant
            No not at all because he has not really gotten faster than he was when fighting at 130, he is just cutting less weight or in this case no weight at all now and surely would feel better and stronger on FN after not going through that process.

            That though has nothing to do with Floyd asking for the tests and why really because we don't know whats in Floyd's mind. There are no facts other than he initially started this whole mess and Pac could not have refused if he didn't ask.

            Its all opinion which is what you were asking about in this thread anyway and if the fight doesn't happen I will be of the opinion that Floyd used this demand to duck Pac.....nothing anyone says will change my view on that.
            He is faster almost everyone agrees.His ko % has increased. He is throwing more punches. That should be a concern. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, I'm just getting feedback.

            Lets go with what you said real quick. why does the request have to stop the fight? How in the hell does floyd know that a request for drug testing cancels the fight unless Manny or his camp tells him. Can we agree on that?

            Your logic implies that floyd knows this is the one thing that would anger Manny and only brought it up to duck him. Does that really make sense to you?

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            • Pacdbest
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              #46
              Originally posted by Big Dunn
              If he ever says Pac is dirty, keep this quote in mind.
              Pac as Dirty is an allegation, it's NOT PROVEN!! Floyd as BORING was PROVEN many times!!!

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                #47
                Originally posted by Pacdbest
                Pac as Dirty is an allegation, it's NOT PROVEN!! Floyd as BORING was PROVEN many times!!!
                Huh? What the **** are you saying?

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                • Pullcounter
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn
                  Does the fact tha Pac has gotten faster and more powerful as he has moved up, which quite frankly has never happened in boxing, concern you in the least?

                  Great fighters move up but almost all have their ko% drop because they are hitting bigger guys. Manny is knocking out guys at 145 but couldn't kojmm at 130 or 135.

                  Just asking!

                  pac didn't get faster or more powerful. he's not stopping guys with one punch KO power. he's stopping them with his speed, angles, and volume punching.

                  if floyd threw as many punches as pac does, then he'd be winning by tKOs too.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by JudeTheObscure
                    Listen. Let all personal feelings about either fighter leave your mind, if that is possible. Can you tell me how, in any case, someone asking for drug testing in a sport where your life is on the line, would ever be SO questioned and criticized unless people were BIASED?

                    Larry Merchant is biased. Alot of people are. There are many reasons, but here is one of them: they simple do not care. They just want the fight soooo bad, like a little kid before Christmas, they just don't want the hype train ruined.

                    And that makes sense. Consider it. Larry Merchant almost gives off the impression of, "why do you have to be so difficult? why can't you let us have our fun? why can't you just let us enjoy this and act excited about it? why do you have to destroy our illusion?"

                    So, lets say one guy has a "genuine phobia of needles". Uhm, ok. AND SO WHAT. Your own personal, genuine phobia is irrelevant, no matter who you are- YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE TEST. If a guy has a phobia of blue shirts, should the ref be made to wear a red one because of it? Should everything change because of one person's personal phobias??

                    It's ludicrous. Something is fishy; all they've done is set Manny up to look like the most impressive fighter ever when he takes the test and proves them wrong. The fact that he wont is SU****IOUS. You just don't want to accept it. the fact that he'd take 6 million instead of 30 million is SU****IOUS. You just can't be honest.

                    Answer it honestly. If any man alive chose 6 mil instead of 30 mil so he wouldn't have to take a blood test, wouldn't you think it was su****ious? or would you say, "oh, that cat just doesn't like needles". Yeah.

                    That sounds really.... believeable.
                    Better yet, Pac fans say, "he"s an honerable man with morals". Or something to that effect. I say don't let your morals make you a damn fool !!! just take the test and do your thing...

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter

                      pac didn't get faster or more powerful. he's not stopping guys with one punch KO power. he's stopping them with his speed, angles, and volume punching.

                      if floyd threw as many punches as pac does, then he'd be winning by tKOs too.
                      I respectfully disagree about his speed and power.

                      Volume punching. Fairpoint. How has he been able to increase his workrate while getting heavier? He wasn't throwing this volume at lighter weights

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