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  • Evil Abed
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    #41
    Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
    Martinez has never been known for power, and he certainly doesn't have the speed and accuracy to place his punches the way Floyd does, nor the uncanny ability to time his opponents.

    Floyd could've stopped Shane, who I believe even at this stage is at least as hard, if not harder, to stop than Williams.
    Martinez has decent power and hes a naturally bigger guy.(Hes never fought below 147)

    Martinez is much closer in height and reach to PW.

    No way Floyd lays down on his punches enough to KO PW.

    PW will give him hell in a good fight.

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    • Jim Jeffries
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      #42
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
      I am not sure but it's possible... mainly because Pac, although does have good size, speed and power.. he doesn't seem to take punishment very well.

      Cotto did mess him up pretty good, and look at his face after the Clottey fight.. and Clottey barely did anything.

      The way Floyd throws with precision, and I see him walking Pac down like he did Mosley... I could see it getting stopped on cuts, or damage... not sure if it will be an actual KO, though.
      If Floyd didn't (couldn't?) stop Judah, I can't see him stopping Pac.

      Sure Clottey did some damage to Pac, but look what he did to Judah?



      Plus Floyd has 5 stoppages in his 13 fights above 130. I just don't see him stopping an elite WW. Not because he doesn't have the ability to, just because he doesn't fight with the same ferociousness that he had at 130.

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      • Michael Hall
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        #43
        Originally posted by eli porter
        The doctors thought he might have had a punctured lung, he complains about being winded and not being able to breath properly and the doctors over react. the neck brace was simply precautionary. Do you understand now? and you know what maybe he did hurt his neck a little, why shouldn't he hold it if that's the case?

        Your not one of those fools who thinks dirrel faked as well are you?
        I can see you and I see things totally different. Because yes, I'm 100% sure Dirrel faked it as well.

        And no, I don't think every single boxer that does something questionable is faking it (i.e. judah rolling around after being hit low by cotto).

        I don't want to rehash the Dirrel-Abraham fight. All I'll say is this. I had Dirrel up on the scorecards at the time he was hit illegally by AA. However, at the time Dirrel went down he was being heavily pressured by AA and looked to really be fading. I totally understand why he faked the severity of the blow, but I don't respect him for it.

        Cintron is another story. This is a guy with a past of doing cowardly things. Look at his first fight with Margarito. He was falling all over the ring from punches that sometimes weren't even landing. He was SCARED.

        He showed those same SCARED tendancies in the rematch with Margs. That's why Marg teased him even after knocking Cintron out again.

        Look at the bull**** he pulled in the Martinez fight. "It was a headbutt". LMAO!

        Now he somehow jumps out of the ring the minute Paul starts applying pressure.

        Come on, man.

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        • geribeetus
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          #44
          Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
          If Floyd didn't (couldn't?) stop Judah, I can't see him stopping Pac.

          Sure Clottey did some damage to Pac, but look what he did to Judah?



          Plus Floyd has 5 stoppages in his 13 fights above 130. I just don't see him stopping an elite WW. Not because he doesn't have the ability to, just because he doesn't fight with the same ferociousness that he had at 130.
          good points, but floyd's only gotten stronger and smarter, and pac's vulnerable to a counterpunch. they hurt him more because he leaps in so much.

          i don't think floyd will stop pac, but i could see it being possible.

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          • Michael Hall
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            #45
            Originally posted by geribeetus
            http://www.boxing-core.com/videos/_P...002180&tid=107

            boxingcores usually one of the first places you can watch a fight
            thx for sharing that link.

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            • THE REED
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              #46
              Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
              If Floyd didn't (couldn't?) stop Judah, I can't see him stopping Pac.

              Sure Clottey did some damage to Pac, but look what he did to Judah?



              Plus Floyd has 5 stoppages in his 13 fights above 130. I just don't see him stopping an elite WW. Not because he doesn't have the ability to, just because he doesn't fight with the same ferociousness that he had at 130.
              That's why I said it would be due to cuts and or damage done.. and not really by knockout.

              Probably goes to decision anyways.

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