no way williams won that fight last night

[David_TheMan]

You really don't have to agree with me, the proof is in the actual fight, at the start of the 4th Williams game out and starting landing the left. He caught him in the middle of the ring and drove him back to the corner, caught him again in the corner, tried to go for it one more time, Kermit count him first though, then Kermit circled out, Paul caught him with a long grazing left again, Kermit tried to roll it and come back but Paul was too low and then the incident happend.

I really don't know what to tell you if you don't think that Paul's workrate and effectiveness went up at the start of the 4th other than you need to buy glasses or get new ones if you already have them.

As for proof of Kermit not liking the pressure, I would say jumping out of the ring and faking an injury is a great sign that you want to get out of a fight.

[HandSpeed303]

You really don't have to agree with me, the proof is in the actual fight, at the start of the 4th Williams game out and starting landing the left. He caught him in the middle of the ring and drove him back to the corner, caught him again in the corner, tried to go for it one more time, Kermit count him first though, then Kermit circled out, Paul caught him with a long grazing left again, Kermit tried to roll it and come back but Paul was too low and then the incident happend.

I really don't know what to tell you if you don't think that Paul's workrate and effectiveness went up at the start of the 4th other than you need to buy glasses or get new ones if you already have them.
As for proof of Kermit not liking the pressure, I would say jumping out of the ring and faking an injury is a great sign that you want to get out of a fight.

I was trying to be respectful with my response, since you explained your stance, unlike most folks.

Now you wanna take shots at me. Ok!

First, when the **** did Paul have him in a corner?? Are you ****ing serious? Glasses? You need a whole new brain. You clearly didn't watch the same fight.

Or you are a Williams fan. One or the other.

[HandSpeed303]

You really don't have to agree with me, the proof is in the actual fight, at the start of the 4th Williams game out and starting landing the left. He caught him in the middle of the ring and drove him back to the corner, caught him again in the corner, tried to go for it one more time, Kermit count him first though, then Kermit circled out, Paul caught him with a long grazing left again, Kermit tried to roll it and come back but Paul was too low and then the incident happend.

I really don't know what to tell you if you don't think that Paul's workrate and effectiveness went up at the start of the 4th other than you need to buy glasses or get new ones if you already have them.

As for proof of Kermit not liking the pressure, I would say jumping out of the ring and faking an injury is a great sign that you want to get out of a fight.

Better yet David, explain the punch stats. Even when Williams so called turned up the heat, he was missing just that much more...

So I guees you scored the fight on pure volume, not who was landing the more effective punches.

It wasn't Williams.

[-Antonio-]

this is what me and burner were arguing about that time..i said no way in hell williams throws 100 punches a round against floyd..cintron was using angles and boxing beautifully and countering..he had williams confused and timid cause of the counters....cintron was boxing a masterpiece..damn why'd he jump out the damn ring..damit kermit

Cintron has a right hand worth fearing and he's longer than Floyd. You still have to figure Floyd would make up for his lack of size with constant movement.

[Pugilistic™]

The first 4 rounds were close.

Just because Williams decided to box abit in the early rounds doesn't mean he instantly loses. It was clear at the beginning of the 4th that Williams upped the pressure.

He even said his gameplan was to box early then up the pressure.

I personally had Williams up 2-1 but it could of easily been 2-1 in favor of Cintron (not including the 4th round).

[Uturn]

We all know Cintron should've got the win

no chance that is just unfair on williams if he lost. it should be ruled a no-contest.

[Iceta Lives]

We all know Cintron should've got the win

I guess he could've gotten the win over Margarito in the first fight if he had done the same thing too, right?

[IIG]

I'm with you on this one, Larry. Cintron won the first three rounds, and Williams won the partially scored 4th. I want a rematch, because I really wanted to see this fight heat up. Paul was so open for the right it wasn't funny.

[youngswish23]

yea that **** was funny. how did cintron just jump out like that. man i was laughing so hard, i hope he didnt get hurt but that was some wwe **** right there. that was strange. but it look like pwill was landing the better shots after round 2. all he was doing was feeling cintron out in the first two rounds which is smart because cintron can ****. im some sure they were going to start putting the pressure on later. but i still want to see him mayweather i think thats the one to look for.

[LRcie03]

The way I see it is this:

Round 1:Cintron was out boxing and counter punching PWill pretty effectively.. It wouldn't be an outcry if someone gave it to PWill, but I would say most gave it to Cintron if they were watching cause PWill was getting countered pretty effectively.

Round 2: More of a technical boxing round where both fighters were not really landing their punches, the audience started boo-ing the fighters I called it a draw (toss up, either way).

Round 3: More of the same a lot of missed punches and feints, look to me like Cintron was getting the better of it, but I gave the round to PWill because he started getting more aggressive at the end of the round and was beginning to let his punches go.

Round 4: Both fighters come out swinging, PWill did hit Cintron and he backed up close to the corner, but Cintron hit PWill with a right hand that wobbled him. He had PWill hurt and holding on to him. This confirms Cintron's after interview statement that he hit and hurt PWill. The ref broke them up, and PWill on still shaky legs throws a punch misses, couches down into Cintron, falls, and sends Cintron flying.

Cintron's fall: I do not believe he intentionally jumped out of the ring, no way.. if you watch the live version he was off balance thats it.

Did he milk it? I don't think so because he had Paul hurt, I think he lost his breath and like he said the ringside doctors were too careful, they should have given him 5 minutes. But in California, sometimes they are way to protective, if this fight were in Vegas, we would have seen it to its finality.