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  • Carpe Diem
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    Former Nevada State Athletic Commission Medical Advisory Board Chairman and Chief Ringside Physician, Dr. Margaret Goodman

    The problem is that you know that fighters are smart, and the people that handle them are smart. Not to say that there are a lot of cheaters out there. Now, we're just talking about anabolic steroids.

    But those that were using, often the drugs would be out of their system so that when there was a fighter that was caught, it wasn't necessarily because the testing was so fabulous, and that it's so pervasive, and we're doing the right drug-testing, etc., but because somebody didn't stop using the drugs in time.

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    • snipes12
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      pacquaio is just ****** about blood testing and mayweather is taking advantage of it to maintain his unblemish record thats why he fought an aging and rust fighter to secure his 0 loss record. mayweather knows he can earn money by avoiding the fight but having a blemish record will affect his legacy he want to leave in the sport of boxing

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      • BritishBoxing92
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        #13
        Originally posted by snipes12
        its seems that floyd is taking advantage of pac's ******ity knowing a small dose of blood will weaken his body before the fight ,pac's has his traumatic experience during the fight with morales about blood testing issues, i cant understand why mayweather dont agree with this ?? pacquaio suggested it should be done after the fight with unlimited urine test , so what's wrong with that ?
        because if one fighter is doping and wins the fight and is tested positive for peds, steroids or illegal substances then that fighter won the fight by cheating....me personally i think neither of them are doping tbh.

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          #14
          Originally posted by snipes12
          pacquaio is just ****** about blood testing and mayweather is taking advantage of it to maintain his unblemish record thats why he fought an aging and rust fighter to secure his 0 loss record. mayweather knows he can earn money by avoiding the fight but having a blemish record will affect his legacy he want to leave in the sport of boxing
          an aging and rusted fighter everyone was calling for him to fight and one that more than enuff ppl picked against him.

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            #15
            Originally posted by snipes12
            its seems that floyd is taking advantage of pac's ******ity knowing a small dose of blood will weaken his body before the fight ,pac's has his traumatic experience during the fight with morales about blood testing issues, i cant understand why mayweather dont agree with this ?? pacquaio suggested it should be done after the fight with unlimited urine test , so what's wrong with that ?
            1) The test after the fight is SCHEDULED. All you have to know is the system clear time for the drugs you are taking, and you can pass it.

            If you were going for a drug test for your job, and I told you the date, would you pass that test?

            2) Let's take the absolute worst case scenario. Say Pacquiao fails the post-fight test. Win or lose, that just invalidated the fight, and was a huge waste of money and time.

            3) The drugs tests do not weaken you. Every time I see that written, it kinda makes me feel sorry for whatever primitive mindset is writing that. The body has 5 liters of blood. You literally do not feel 5, 10, or 20 ml's of blood being gone. We are talking about less than 1% of your blood volume. You superstitious *******s really must stop with this "blood draining" bull****.

            4) I would bet my mortgage that Mayweather had no clue about Pac's supposed fear of needles or fainting at the sight of blood or whatever. Do you genuinely believe that Floyd was researching Manny Pacquiao's idiosyncracies and peccadilloes? Seriously?

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            • snipes12
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              Originally posted by BritishBoxing92
              because if one fighter is doping and wins the fight and is tested positive for peds, steroids or illegal substances then that fighter won the fight by cheating....me personally i think neither of them are doping tbh.
              the fighter is dq and should be ban in boxing , they should have terms like this

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                #17
                Originally posted by snipes12
                its seems that floyd is taking advantage of pac's ******ity knowing a small dose of blood will weaken his body before the fight ,pac's has his traumatic experience during the fight with morales about blood testing issues, i cant understand why mayweather dont agree with this ?? pacquaio suggested it should be done after the fight with unlimited urine test , so what's wrong with that ?
                I don't think Pacquiao is on PED's but they don't help you fight. They help you train. You wouldn't use HGH before a fight, you'd use it in camp, so it wouldn't do anything to test him after the fight unless he was dumb enough to inject the day before. It's the kind of thing you need to do twice daily for a month before it has any effect.

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                • maguirre
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by snipes12
                  so why the fck are this mayweather fans broughting up this ****** ped's issues should take drug test issues when we all know what is going in ??
                  It won't be an issue any longer. Pacquiao already stated in a radio interview that he is willing to take the test just not the day of the fight. Arum and company are now the ones negotiating for the cut-off date.

                  If there is an assumption that Manny is the only one that could be affected by these invasive tests, then it's a false assumption. We just saw a Mosley that uncharacteristically run out of gas early and a Mayweather that was not in his full potential. The tests clearly affected both. The only difference is their age. Manny is younger than Mosley.

                  Like I said these extra tests were unnecessary. We could have seen better performances in that Saturday fight. It will destroy boxing. There has to be better ways.

                  But if these elements are required, so be it. I'm just saying that both could be weakened. It's even possible that Mayweather may be affected more because he knew that Pac is clean. Not to mention guilt could have psychological repercussions.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by snipes12
                    its seems that floyd is taking advantage of pac's ******ity knowing a small dose of blood will weaken his body before the fight ,pac's has his traumatic experience during the fight with morales about blood testing issues, i cant understand why mayweather dont agree with this ?? pacquaio suggested it should be done after the fight with unlimited urine test , so what's wrong with that ?
                    James Toney tested positive under Freddie Roach's eye several times, Mayweather Sr knew about this for a while the 2 had words about it. B/C James Toney is loose canon the Mayweather camp b/c intelligent and accussed Paquiao of PEDs knowing what they know about Toney, through in the excuse they made about why they lost to Morales and there u have it. I guess the real queation is what else was in the contract that worried Floyd enough b/c I still don't believe it was the weight penalty being that he made 146 both time against Marquez and Mosley. Maybe it was the size of the ring and the gloves.

                    I also blame Oscar for chaning trainers so much and allowing Freddie Roach the chance to see what stipulations he put Mayweather under to give himself every advatage possible, like Glove and ring size weight etc.

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                      Is this a serious question? There are a lot of rocket scientist in here i see. Hypothetically, the fight comes off and Pacquiao wins and comes up dirty after the fight? What good does that do for Floyd? He just lost his perfect record to an unclean fighter and he cant get his perfect record back and whatever damage that occurred can't be taken away. In addition, his profitability as a fighter would take a severe hit as well.

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